Large wandering dogs

Just saw news report of pitbull attack in Col.where officials are trying to I.D.owner to file charges.Am I alone in feeling that if one expects to see their dog again(atleast alive)when released,it must have a collar with owner info on it.Not once have I seen an I.D.collar on a dog that had killed livestock or commited other offense.On the other hand almost every dog I incounter while upland hunting on public land has complete I.D. on a collar. "responsiable ownership?"

Up in Northern Canada any dog thats loose gets shot by the R.C.M.P. no ifs ands or buts.

I don't think that will fly in all locations.NM.,LA.,TX.,OK.and others have reasons to release large dogs that are not in view of owner at times,such as to roust livestock from vast brushy areas so horses can handle,find and bay wild hogs for extermination,sporting breeds like coonhounds(the small animal w/ringed tail).By the way these valued dogs wear a special collar that will be pulled free if dog intangles and struggles.

Dogs do get loose, chains break, collars let go.I am quite fond of my dog.The shooter would be next...

I agree if they are on the dog owners property or another's with permission. Ask a livestock owner (especially with sheep) in one of those states what he would do if he saw an unknown dog on his place, collar or not. BTDT

shoot they and buried they tell no one

If I see a dog on my place that doesn't belong, I do the following:

IF I know the owner, I give them a call ONCE.
If the dog shows up again, SSS.
If I don't know who owns the dog - SSS right off.

If you can't be responsible for your dog, then don't complain when it don't come home.

The pitbull in Colorado probably had been dumped because the owner couldn't, or wouldn't, control him.

I mentioned on another thread a few days ago about having to take out two unknown dogs in a hurry a year and a half ago because they were intent on doing harm to my renter's kids. One of my pet peeves is folks in town who acquire a puppy because it's cute, don't bother to train it, and then think if they take it out in the country and dump it some farmer will be overjoyed to have it.

The reality is, any dog that's dumped in the country has a life expectancy of less than a day.

I'm fond of my nieces and nephews. I'll be fond of my kids when they come.
Good dogs stay at home. For those that don't, there's the 3 S's of stray dog control. Shoot, shovel, shut up about it. Hate to put it that way, but roaming dogs tend to attack people they don't know and other pets. If I know who it belongs to, they get a few shots in the dirt in front of them and the owner gets called.

i can see where a dog that is aggressive and on your property needs to be destroyed, but as mentioned there are loose working dogs on range land some people that just move into a rual setting after living in a city all their lives dont know the 'rules' i had a personal experience with one of these people myself, my coon hound was working a wooded area ajacent to my place the object was to flush a particularly annoying coon that had been raiding the place, well the new neighbor came screeaching down my lane and raising all kinds of cain about my dog, ending with "if i see him again, i'll shoot him,, he now knows his welfare is directly connected to the dogs,

Ive done animal control for the town.Picked up stray dogs with no problem.Too many dog and cat killers on some forums.Have you ever seen a Border collie herd cattle and sheep.Ive watched a Border Collie working with his owners cattle 1000 feet from the farm house.The dog kept them in a group and was still with them 3 hours later when I came by on the way home.Ive watched my own Border Collie drive a loose cow back into the fence and herd the rest of the cattle back up to the barn.If you have a female dog she will get many visitors when she comes in heat.Dogs behave better than many humans. I returned many lost hunting dogs during the time I did animal control.Dogs do get loose from time to time.No reason to shoot them.

(quoted from post at 21:28:50 04/12/09) he now knows his welfare is directly connected to the dogs,

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Good for you!! Hunters here are allowed to shoot cats and dogs if they are in their section. I went to the three that are in this immediate area with a dog and a picture of the others and gave them my phone number in case of any problems. They were real nice about it. A year or so later 2 of the dogs decided to go on tour so I hit the hunters right away and called the radio station. One of the hunters had a couple of buddies around so gave me the big talk. Tightened a couple screws for him on the spot and we all get along fine now.

Dave

more nonsense-have you ever heard of a kennel or a dog run.

There is dog running around here that has a bounty on it. I seen it and two other dogs chasing calves and almost had a 500 pound heifer down, one large dog and two smaller ones. There are a few of use around here ready to get rid of them.

I think that should read, "SOME dogs behave better than many humans." If your wife had ever come home and couldn't get out of the car because of a stray dog jumping on the door barking, a rottweiler in this case, that just might change your point of view.

Sounds like the best advice in a LONG time...anti freeze works too...straqy cats in the same boat...NOTHING kills more than an stray cat....Charles

Charles, just curious, how do stray cats kill? I have barn cats here to keep the mice and rats under control. They even keep the rabbits away so the flowers don't get eaten off. Just one of those necessary abominations for rural living in my opinion.

I'd agree with you tool pusher,except,my neighbors always knew when I was on or near their place,bird dogs are useless out of sight of hunter,coon dogs/coyote dogs and the like country courtesy would suggest you let folks know you may be on their place. a trained cow or sheep dog WONT herd stock unless you send it,and will be under direct control.The worlds worse is one who chases or herds livestock on its own.no reason to be herding livestock on another persons place unless yours are out,again courtesy would suggest you let your neighbor know your hunting your stock and not his.I have no problems with coon dogs/or coyote dogs crossing our places,I do allow hunting on my places,if your dogs tree an animal on my place,call /knock on door and let me know "EVERYTIME",were good,I see you out there without my knowing im calling the law.Trailing dogs follow a trail ,I understand this,I also deserve to know who is on my place and for what reason.AND..bird,coon,cattle,coyote dog caught chasing my cattle for "ANY REASON WHATSOEVER",is in the wrong!I wont shoot a hunting or cattle dog if I know their owners,or if I can see their owners.however,I will ban them from my places if their dogs are chasing my cattle while hunting,dog ownership comes with more responsibilities than just to feed it.it has to know it has limitations,and its the owners responsibility to see that it knows them.

Have you ever seen how fast a dog can dig under a fence? I have had cattle here for 43 years with no dogs shot.

A farmer kept tally on his cat.The cat always brought his kills to the back porch.95 % were rats and mice...I had a tom cat who went woodchuck hunting with me.He would check chuck holes to see if the chuck was home.