Snow in engine

Anonymous-0 · Jan 26, 2010

The one time I leave my 1850 oliver outside we have a blizzard - I get stuck away from home come home today and the tractor makes about 5 turns and then really starts to turn hard -- I have snow in the cylinders -- what are the chances I bent a push rod or something like that -- will my block heater thaw it? Help me out here -- It wont sit outside again

steve_ne · Jan 26, 2010

Battery... sound like your battery is weak. Give it a good charge and see what happens. Clean the post and all the connections.

rrlund · Jan 26, 2010

Gas or diesel? Don't know what good thawing it will do other than letting you get the water out by taking out a spark plug or injector. I wouldn't think bent pushrod so much as bent connecting rod,but just using the starter,that isn't likely. I've seen where it's happened by towing them with water in the cylinders though. Not to say there aren't exceptions.

C.R. · Jan 26, 2010

I guess if she is a gasser you could put the heater to it for a while and pull the plugs and turn it over to clear out the water i dont know about how to do that for a diesel

old · Jan 26, 2010

Well if you really have snow in the engine you need to do the same thing you would do if it was water and clear the cylinders of the water/snow. Bent push rods probably not since water/snow has a lot of give to it so the valve would be able to open. Now if it turned to ice that is another story in its self and is big and bad trouble. Get that engine warmed up some how so it does not turn to ice and get those cylinders cleared

Uncle Ernie · Jan 26, 2010

Unless the intake /air cleaner was open to snow I do not see how snow could get in AND still allow the engine to turn over 5 times. Water down an exhaust stack will sometimes get thru an open exhaust valve and cause a cylinder to hydraulic lock. That would happen on the first compression stroke. Snow should not creep like water and just be blown out the exhaust. Not a good practice to have snow in the exhaust but probably not fatal to the engine like water can be.

teddy52food · Jan 26, 2010

Sounds like the battery is low. Tractors sit out in the snow & still start & run. If it turned over 5 times, why didn't it start?If it is a diesel it will need to be heated or use the glow plugs longer.

rustred · Jan 26, 2010

dont u cover the exaust with the million dollar tomato can? thats why businesses sell all these parts because of neglect to cover with a 50 cent can. thats if it dont have a rain cap. but i believe what ever snow fell in should just be blown out. sounds like your batt. needs charging.

BushogPapa · Jan 26, 2010

Remember that a battery at 0*F will only deliver 50% of the CCA of a Fully Charged battery at 72*F.

AND, you cannot "Fully Charge" that 0* battery while it remains at that temp either..

Probably best to warm the battery as well as the engine..

Ron..

BANDITFARMER · Jan 26, 2010

I would plug it in and let it warm the block up, then get the jumper cables out and hook to the starter. YES that is right hook to the positive cable on the starter not the battery, if the batterys are low when you try to start it you will lose amps to the batterys thats why you hook to the starter. With any luck it should start. Just watch the jumper cable end that it dont hit an injecter lines, there close. Good Luck Bandit

RodinNS · Jan 26, 2010

Welcome to winter.... Give it a boost, plug the block heater in and it will start.
I very much doubt you have snow, or water or anything else in the engine.
It's just cold and you have a bad battery.

Rod

Ecnerwal · Jan 26, 2010

Assuming the weather stayed snow, and you actually have manifolds, I can't see how you'd have snow in the engine, even if you had an open exhaust pipe (never have an open exhaust pipe - if you can't make the tin can part of your shutdown sequence every time, you need a rain flapper, IMHO).

Say it snowed in the exhaust, since snow making it past the air cleaner and around the intake seems ludicrous. If you have a muffler that has baffles, snow isn't getting to the manifold. If you have a glass-pack or straight pipe (you're going deaf needlessly and) snow could get all the way to the manifold. If the weather stayed cold, you have snow in the manifold, and you didn't heat the tractor before trying to start it, so it was still snow, not water. If the tractor starts, the snow would be blown out or melted and blown out. The only way I can see water making it into the engine is if the snow melted and liquid water ran down the exhaust, as described by Uncle Ernie. That does not seem like it would have happened given what you describe. Jump it and go.

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