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HUSKY

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i usually do not blast anyone on this site but in this case i will make an exception !!!!!!!!!! i called lucky phillips and told him i wanted a finish mower (7 ft) that he had for sale put a deposit down via credit card and said i would be down that day to pick up as i had business in that area appox 130 miles from me ASKED SPECIICALLY IF I NEEDED A TRAILER OR NOT ????????????????????????????????? I WAS TOLD NO IT WILL SIDE IN BED OF PICKUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so me and the missus arrive and find it much bigger than we were told i told him THE OWNER it would not fit and i was not damaging my truck to take it he said it would fit proceeds to tell me it will fit i agreed to try it while loading it he caught the wheel under the bed lip and BENT IT IN CAUSEING DAMAGE AND CRACKING PAINT DAMAGING A TRUCK THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DAMAGED BEFORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND ONLY HAS 6000 MILE ON IT . THAN PROCEEDS TO LAY IT DOWN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BED ON TOP OF THE RAIL AND SAYS IT HAS TO RIDE THAT WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I WAS ANGRY BY THIS TIME AND TOLD HIM TO GET IT OFF MY TRUCK . WHICH HE DOES PUTS IT DOWN THEN CALLS ME OVER AND SAYS LOOK AT THAT PRICE WHICH WAS WRITTEN ON IT $1,895.00 I HAD IT FOR $1,295.00 HE SAID IT BEHOOVES YOU TO COME BACK TOMORROW AND PICK THIS UP FOR $600.00 DIFFERENCE NEVER APOLOGIZED FOR DAMAGING TRUCK ECT. CAUSED SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS IN DAMAGE TO TRUCK

HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR HAPPEN ???? WHAT DID YOU DO ???

NEEDLESS TO SAY MISSUS GOT DEPOSIT BACK AND WE LEFT !!!!!!!!!

HUSKY
 
Sounds like you are quite the gentleman farmer not wanting to scratch the truck. Especially after believing his statement that an elephant will fit in a Yugo.


Sometimes what works on the farm........
 
Rule #1 as a seller - I do not load or strap your purchase. Its not being rude..its me being SMART. Too many buyers are looking for a free ride now a days.
Rule #2 as a buyer - I do not ask anyone to load something into my vehicle bed. Exeperienced or not its too big a risk and can cause the situation your dealing with.

Lucky Phillips - Turkeyfoot equipment etc....I don't know the guy...I have seen his listings...he's an equipment jockey...its a business...and a numbers game. Keep that in mind when expecting sellers to cater to you. I advise all of my buyers - COME PREPARED just like Boy Scouts...put it on a trailer and don't risk damaging a vehicle with 6000 miles on it. I feel sorry for your situation and I am pretty certain the seller does as well....its one of those things that happens..learn and move on.

Good luck.
 
HOLY COW! I just read your post again....7ft finish mower. How did you possibly think that would fit in your truck bed? You didn't need a seller to advise on you on it....if you BOUGHT a 7ft mower then you clearly understood its dimensions.

Just the weight alone would wrinkle something....I suppose the saved fuel/toll cost from not towing a trailer looks pretty good in comparison to the tab from the body shop?
 
Think you must not have wanted a mower that bad. Trucks are to be used, should have just banged the bed and side rails a little with a hammer the day you picked it up from the dealer and little stuff 6000 miles later wouldn't get your heart pumping so much.
Now, if you'd said that he got poop on your wheels, I'da sympathised with you.


Dave
 
Exactly what I was gonna post; you just beat me to it. Always fun trying to figure out if the posters are wannabee farmers, yuppies or small-time gardeners. (no personal offence intended to the original poster, am sure he doesn't fit into either category)
 
#1. Pickups are to be USED. When they"re used, they get banged up a bit.

#2. Whatever made you even consider hauling a 7" mower in a pickup? Using a trailer should have been a no-brainer. You should have known the dimensions of the mower.

IMHO, you owe the guy an apology and you owe it to him to complete the sale. Don"t come crying to us over your own inexperience.
 
Boy,this brings back memories of the time my brother and I went to Archbold Ohio to pick up a 1 row John Deere corn chopper that Dad had bought. We got there and my brother decided he didn't want to pull it 150 miles. He said he thought it would fit in that 1966 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup. Well....it fit ON that 1/2 ton pickup. The bolts in the axle did a pretty good job on the top of the box,both wheels hung off both sides of it and the tougue hung way out over the closed tailgate,but it fit. So,fitting in a pickup,or on it is do-able in a whole lot of cases. Just depends on what your definition of FIT is.
 
I've never owned a new vehicle. The only
opportunity I had to own anything new was before I
married the CFO :>)! For twenty years now she
won't let me buy new because she doesn't like how
much that new car smell costs. Every truck I've
had came pre-dinged. I didn't know they made them
any other way!

Kind of funny, though, hitting it with a hammer so
you don't feel bad later!

Christopher
 
Regardless what some others post, I would guess he's a business if he took a credit card, he was responsible to take reasonable care to load it. I would contact them and ask for the name of their insurance.
Seems a 7 ft FINISH mower would be a judgement call whether to use a trailer or truck.
 
last time i checked 7 foot equals 7 foot over the phone or in person...dont you own a tape measure?
 
And about the hammer, I used to work with a guy who also farmed on the side. He would buy a new truck every two years and before he drove it off the dealer's lot he would kick a dent in the driver's door. He said it was best to get the first one out of the way, then he wouldn't be mad about it later.

As for me I wouldn't know any thing about putting the first dent in one. Every truck I have ever had I let some one else put the first few dings in it, I just felt bad about give'n them half what they paid for it just as they were getting them broke in good.

Dave
 
Let's see here...you've got a standard pickup truck,so I'm guessing about an 8-foot bed. And you're looking at a 7-foot finish mower. OK, so since the distance between the wheel wells won't be over about 54" [that's 4-1/2 feet], it won't fit width-wise. And turned sideways, it MIGHT fit if there's no trailing wheels, and if you remove the hitch...but even THAT sounds iffy.
[I'm not even a farmer, and I can figure THAT much out.]

So at what point did you NOT figure out that the mower wouldn't fit in the pickup bed? Did you not carry a tape measure to check? [Basic essential equipment for folks like me who can't always count on "eyeball estimates" down to 1/2" accuracy]

Bottom line is...YOU didn't check. Equipment dealer, like a car dealer, will say what he has to say to make the sale. You probably didn't tell him before you arrived that you were picking up that mower with a 6000-mile "new" truck, either...as opposed to the average farm truck. Whenever I sell something, unless delivery is included in the deal, the ways and means of moving said merchandise is at the discretion of the BUYER...and I'm pretty sure most equipment dealers operate the same way. If you even had the first INKLING that the mower wouldn't fit the truck, you should've stopped the seller from even ATTEMPTING to load it for you.

Just my opinion...your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, yadda yadda yadda.
 
It would have been better to just take the trailer anyway but you did ask him and he said it would fit in a pick up. Most people wouldn't risk damaging a new truck with a big steel thing. Is the only 6000 mile truck added just to make your story sound better? Someone should have been able to see right away that it was too big. Before it was set down in the truck, again it should have been obvious it was too big. There are are some people that are horrible at loading things though and will try what ever way they can just so aren't wrong. Before the truck got damaged the guy should have apologized and asked if you could come back with a trailer or you should have suggested it. The price on the tag doesn't matter. The price was already established. I took a welder to a shop just to have it looked over and the idiot tilted the forklift into the side of the truck box. No apology or nothing. It wasn't my truck but luckily we were able to pop the dent back out. I'd be pizzed too but your partly to blame for not stopping him from trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Dave
 
Keep in mind that ANYTHING can happen when loading or off loading a piece of equipment. Just kinda wondering how you planned to off load it. If you didn't have a loader you would,ve probably dinged the truck bed up pretty bad. By the way if it's a 7 foot cut, there's a real good chance the overall length would be more than 7 foot. You never said if you asked what the depth of the mower was--shame on you-your fault for that. Also, the truck belongs to you & it was your responsibility to let him load it or not. Just my thoughts, Keith
 
That settles that... If I found out tOTALLY lACKING aNY kNOWLEDGE was on my side, I'd give up and apologize to the dealer.
 
The bent up truck stinks, some folks just value things differntly then others I guess. I personally don't like beating up my stuff, but that's just me.

The part that bothers me though is did he raise the price on you just because you complained about the truck? The way you have it written I'm not really sure, but if he did threaten to do that I would be pretty mad.

K
 
I like the "kick a dent in the door story". Reminds me of a rule my brother and I have about getting a cup of coffee for the road. Always get two, the second one we'll drink. We all know where the first cup is going - on your crotch!
 
Looks like it would fit, this resembles most models. Most businesses carry insurance for this, not to just tell you too bad. Too bad if you got bent.
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If I read the story correctly, Lucky did NOT raise the price.

He was going to honor the $1295 price even though the mower was marked $1895.

The only mistake here was letting him talk you into trying to load the mower in your new pickup. Stupid mistake on your part. You gave him permission to load it, so 100% of the responsibility for the damage is on you.
 
Not that this will make YOU feel any better . . .


A few years back a guy offered to sell me an unstyled Deere L tractor for $500 and would delivery it to my house for free. So, I said "yes."

Next day he showed up with half a Deere L, sideways, in the bed of his little Datsun mini-truck. He told me he cut it in half with his torches so it would fit, and he would delivery in two trips.

Needless to say, I was pretty ticked off. The guy swore that cutting it in half was "no big deal" since it was a tube-frame tractor anyway.
 
a few years ago i drove my dads new chevy one ton to an auction at archbold ohio to pick up a uni-sheller for a mm combine.The loader guys were not very nice and insisted on hooking the chains and told me to but out.They had a loader on each side.When they picked it up it did a big flip and came down on the roof and hood of the truck.They tried to blame me,but the owners
paid for the damage.
 
(quoted from post at 06:52:08 04/05/10) Sounds like you are quite the gentleman farmer not wanting to scratch the truck. Especially after believing his statement that an elephant will fit in a Yugo.


Sometimes what works on the farm........
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Some of you guys that post as "Guest", reminds me of little ankle biting dogs.
You sneak in anonymously, make a little jab, and then gone again. :roll:
 
(quoted from post at 06:53:43 04/05/10) Rule #1 as a seller - I do not load or strap your purchase. Its not being rude..its me being SMART. Too many buyers are looking for a free ride now a days.
Rule #2 as a buyer - I do not ask anyone to load something into my vehicle bed. Exeperienced or not its too big a risk and can cause the situation your dealing with.

Lucky Phillips - Turkeyfoot equipment etc....I don't know the guy...I have seen his listings...he's an equipment jockey...its a business...and a numbers game. Keep that in mind when expecting sellers to cater to you. I advise all of my buyers - COME PREPARED just like Boy Scouts...put it on a trailer and don't risk damaging a vehicle with 6000 miles on it. I feel sorry for your situation and I am pretty certain the seller does as well....its one of those things that happens..learn and move on.
Good luck.
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So, when you sell a piece of farm equipment, you are being SMART by telling the buyer to bring his own loading equipment with him?

Just curious. :)
 
You need to break a truck in.If it went 6k without a dent you don't need a pickup.Around here we get an old bowling ball and THROW it in the bed,leave it in the bed for 30 days,then go back for the bedliner. A trip across the pasture,hitting a few bull holes also break it in. the cow doo on the bottom assures people you know what a truck is for.
 
Guess I would tend to side with Husky. The seller knows the dimensions of the mower and tells the buyer it will fit, but it doesn,t. Sellers fault!
 
(quoted from post at 06:57:08 04/05/10) HOLY COW! I just read your post again....7ft finish mower. How did you possibly think that would fit in your truck bed? You didn't need a seller to advise on you on it....if you BOUGHT a 7ft mower then you clearly understood its dimensions.

Just the weight alone would wrinkle something....I suppose the saved fuel/toll cost from not towing a trailer looks pretty good in comparison to the tab from the body shop?
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I don't think you know what a finish mower is.
If it's a 7' rotary cutter, i.e. "Brush Hog" then yes, it wouldn't fit, being 7'+ wide AND long.
But a 7' finish mower is more rectangular shaped, having I think, about 3 small blades. There may be different variations, but I can see where one might fit in a truck bed.

And as far as weight, it would probably weigh somewhere around #800, which shouldn't be a problem at all. If a person was worried, he could set some heavy pieces of wood crossways to distribute the weight more evenly. :)
 
Been there,,problem is that Customer was advised that mower would fit on pickup before he drove 130 miles so he took dealer at his word.point#1 never believe someone trying to sell you something..when at the sellers site the seller wouldn't listen to buyer ..point#2 at that point buyer should have told seller that the deal was off but if the seller wanted to loan buyer a trailer then buyer would go thru with deal...buyer wasn't out anything at this time because he was going to be there anyway
 
HMMMM!!! Taking a hammer to a 30 thousand dollar pickup either you"ve got too much money or you"re pure WT or you"re a jockey pretty much the same.
 
(quoted from post at 12:42:00 04/05/10) Looks like it would fit, this resembles most models. Most businesses carry insurance for this, not to just tell you too bad. Too bad if you got bent.
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Exactly!! Good post TLAK.
I'm thinking some of these guys don't know what a finish mower looks like. :lol: :roll:

And sometimes all it takes is removing a wheel or unbolting something to make an implement fit in the bed of a truck. I've done that many times, and never damaged anything.
 
(quoted from post at 07:26:43 04/05/10)
#1. Pickups are to be USED. When they"re used, they get banged up a bit.

#2. Whatever made you even consider hauling a 7" mower in a pickup? Using a trailer should have been a no-brainer. You should have known the dimensions of the mower.

IMHO, you owe the guy an apology and you owe it to him to complete the sale. Don"t come crying to us over your own inexperience.
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#1. Yes pickups are to be used but not ABUSED!!
As a truck gets older it starts showing signs of heavy use by eventually getting dents, dings, and scratches. Mine is showing its age but I still try to take care of it, and keep it looking decent, and I don't take unnecessary chances. But I don't know of anyone that don't mind their truck getting beat up and devalued by hundreds of dollars by some careless unapologetic individual, when it's brand new.

#2. UUMMM!! Maybe because the seller insisted it would fit in the buyers truck, after the buyer asked if he needed to bring a trailer along??
And, you're saying that the buyer is supposed to know the dimensions of something he's never seen, but the seller don't have to know this when he insists that it will fit in a pickup bed??

And, pardon me....but you think that on top of the sellers bungling, that the buyer should apologize???? WHOA!!! :shock:
 
The buyer should have got the dimensions for a 7' finish mower. I'm sure with a few minutes and Google and you could dig those dimensions. Then a couple minutes with a tape measure would tell you if it would/wouldn't fit in the bed of the truck.
 
The company I work for has signs at all their retail yards. "Not responsible for damage to your vehicle when loading"
I don't know how much it would stand up in court, but they stand by it.
Tim in OR
 
(quoted from post at 12:42:06 04/05/10)

The only mistake here was letting him talk you into trying to load the mower in your new pickup. Stupid mistake on your part. You gave him permission to load it, so 100% of the responsibility for the damage is on you.
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I disagree!

I've never known a dealer that didn't load the merchandise for the buyer. They'll just ask which vehicle is yours. Or they may tell you to just pull your vehicle to a certain spot, so they can load it up. If they see that there's going to be a problem, then they'll talk it over with you. That's just the way business is done that I've ever seen.

And in all the years I've had my truck loaded at farm implement dealerships, lumber yards, feed stores, etc., I've never seen it done carelessly. They know they need to load it responsibly because they also know that they could be held liable for any damage done to your vehicle.
 
(quoted from post at 17:25:32 04/05/10) HMMMM!!! Taking a hammer to a 30 thousand dollar pickup either you"ve got too much money or you"re pure WT or you"re a jockey pretty much the same.
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Oh that makes perfect sense - lets put wood planks across the truck bed and raise the weight center to above the bed rails.
I guess and you and the original poster both went to the same school of trucking....please be polite and notify others when you intend to take your hazardous loads out onto the roadway.

You guys preaching about "yeah it can be done".."its just a mower" - seriously...use your heads. Just take a trailer and save yourself the frustration and headache....if your that cheap don't buy equipment that the seller won't deliver to your location. Being CHEAP - Comes with a price one way or another.
 
If you saw that it wouldn"t really fit right,
then YOU"RE dumb for letting him go ahead and
load it !
 
(quoted from post at 05:29:32 04/06/10) Oh that makes perfect sense - lets put wood planks across the truck bed and raise the weight center to above the bed rails.
I guess and you and the original poster both went to the same school of trucking....please be polite and notify others when you intend to take your hazardous loads out onto the roadway.quote]


I wasn't talking about placing a few 24" dia. railroad bridge timbers across a pickup bed. That's what it would take to get the point of gravity above the bed rails.
Just a couple of 4x4's would suffice, if you even wanted to use something.
A 7' finish mower is only about 800lbs, which is nothing for a 1/2 ton pickup. Hardly a hazardous load. :)
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I dont see why it didnt fit,unless it was some weird shape.I worked on one of those a while back and 2 of us turned it upside down.It was heavy,but not all that bad.Unless he dropped it or something I dont even see how he could have bent your truck.I know some people can tear stuff up easier than others,but I dont really see how it tore up your truck without more explanation.Also I dont see why you couldnt have taken a wheel or the hitch off if it was a lttle wide or even blocked it up with some 4x4s or something.
 
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