Wheat silage anyone?

I was planning on making some wheat silage this year and had read a lot on when to cut- blah blah.. Anyone here actually made it and if so, what are some tricks to making the best wheat silage???
 
We've cut it from flag stage to dough stage. Cant tell a whole lot of difference other than yield. Its as easy as corn silage, a lot easier than alfalfa.
 
We have made it several times. It is much better quality the earlier it is cut. If you get very far into the dough stage the stem will come out just like mature straw and you will have much more waste during feeding.
It also makes a big difference how you are storing it. The old stave up rights will have a lot of surface spoilage. The wheat does not seem to pack as tight with just its weight. We have ran it through bagger and it made much better feed that way. The tighter pack seem to be the key.
 
packing alfalfa used to be an issue but add an inflatable pool the diam of the silo, and fill with water- presto! packed silage. It helps a lot.
 
The good ideas that some people come up with never ceases to amaze me. That gave me a good smile and chuckle this morning. Now what happens when the pool ruptures?
 
Never had that happen. The bottoms seem to hold up fine the only issue is if I ever forget to drin the water out before it freezes!!
 
Higher feed value ( protein ) the earlier cut. A little more volume,with grain in it ,the later cut. Strike a happy medium by harvesting as heads begin showing. I mow it with mower-conditioner and lay in tight swath one day, chop it the next. Still had it drain quite a bit of juice from a 16 x 40 stave upright. Years ago we let it get to the dough stage and chopped it with a direct-cut header on the chopper. Left a longer stubble then as the lower stalk was getting tougher.
 

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