weight??

Hey folks,
Had a near miss the other day with the baler, tractor, and hillside. Baler weighs the same as the tractor and I was going down a slight hill that turned out to be not so slight when the baler started pushing the tractor (ground was getting damp). Coulda, shoulda, woulda.... But would extra weight on the tractor (filled tires and/or wheel weights) have prevented this or at least made it better? How much heavier should the tractor be than the baler? This is not a big place so I plan to just rake the hay to the bottom and bale it there, but i may get lazy.

Thanks, Dave

Farm tractors are designed to carry fluid in the tires, at least the older ones were. Do yourself a favor and get rim guard or at least a set of cast iron weights. I learned the hard way, your tractor needs to out weigh the equipment if you have any hills!

It also depend where the weight is. To not get pushed around you
need weight on the rear axle where the traction is.
Zach

Dave. Be very carefull. Who else could I get to describe ole Ugly so elequantly? Posted a friends suggestion and maybe a patent on a safety switch for tractors. D-mm it man, do be carefull.
LOU

Bet you came close to making a mess didn't you?? That is why some tractor just plain and simple do not make good baler tractors. That said yes adding wheel weights and or fluid will in fact help a good bit. I would start with fluid and then go from there. Fluid does a lot more to keep the tires on the ground and holding into the ground then wheel weights will

Not only that, but a hay baler likes to drive the tractor down hills (flywheel stores energy, and plunger moving forward and back doesn't help). If you are going to mess with hills, weights and good brakes are a must have. I don't have good brakes on my Allis D-10, but I do have a snowplow frame that has down pressure, hey it ain't pretty, but any port in a storm!

Aw, don't worry about fluid or weights - just eat a double helping of supper each night and that should put the weight right where it belongs.
Might need them "helper" springs on the seat that a guy was asking about though!

Hope this advice don't hurt your modeling career.

(quoted from post at 15:46:22 10/21/10) Bet you came close to making a mess didn't you??

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I was a liiiiiiitle bit concerned........ Someone was looking out for me cause there was a time that the tractor was on ywo wheels and when it got back on all 4's I got traction and missed a big tree by a couple inches. When I got stopped, I put everything together and went home. Went back the next day and picked up the hay. I just picked up an extra set of wheels/tires,may think about filling them and looking for some wheel weights and start eating some burgers....

Dave

I see you've been studing Dave2 People SKills program. Nice try though. Just might have him eat meals at the big arch,at least three times a day until he has the weight ratio to traction on the tractor figured out lol
LOU

The potential is there to flip the tractor over backwards, e.g. coming out of a depression.

Just trying to help you out!
Sounds like you're feeling better.

Jim

My 1977 Ford 7700 came with fluid in all 4 tires when we got it in 1980.

Turns out I really like it that way. I round bale road ditches with it, and pull 600 bu of grain on a pair of wagons with it. Aslo pick up 5x6 round bales with the 3pt.

That fliud really helps, even the front tires, it stays planted like a rock.

And despite what everyone on here seems to say, the rims haven't rotted off yet - good old calcium cloride, and it's made my life a lot easier.

I picked up a Ford 5200 a couple years ago, and while it is nearly the same tractor with a smaller engine, you can sure tell the loss of traction with no fluid in it. Really considering adding fluid to that one too.

I got a compact tractor, NH 1720 4wd with loader, the first couple weeks I had it, took an _empty_ wagon down the driveway hill, got into the dewy grass a little bit, and had a ride 1/2 as interesting as you did. Holy buckets! That really does get a person's attention, doesn't it? Been driving tractors for many decades, never had a scare like that with the little compact tractor.

Had the coop out the next day, got CC in the rear tires, and it's been a solid, well-behaved little tractor ever since, will take 1/2 loaded wagons down the driveway now & it stays in control.


I'd do the fluid.

--->Paul

(quoted from post at 19:56:52 10/21/10) Just trying to help you out!
Sounds like you're feeling better.

Jim

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You're just a barrel of warmth......Prolly cause you're full of shi..sympathy.
Feeling much better.

Hitching equipment to tractors is like pulling a trailer with a truck,the important question isn't
"Will it pull it" the big question is "Will it stop it" I farm some very steep land and terrain makes all the difference

Firm believer in fluid in the tires