Re: Re: CNH Farmalls

Posted by Hugh MacKay on May 08, 2003 at 21:09:20 from (209.226.247.12):

In Reply to: Re: CNH Farmalls posted by Guy Fay on May 08, 2003 at 16:25:49:

Guy:
You have more faith than I. When I heard where these new Farmalls were being built, I had but one vission; 274 and 284. Two of the biggest pieces of junk ever produced by anyone. and they will do the same thing all over again. The Corperate World believe they can make the public like just about anything. You can not build a viable tractor getting your horse power from RPM's rather than CUBIC INCHES.

I would be willing to bet that if CNH brought back the 56 series tractors, exactly as they were 35 years ago, John Deere would be taking a back seat. To start with, without all the electronic gadgetry currently on new tractors, it could probably be sold for 30% less and still make a good profit. I have been around current operating farmers a bit lately. They are growling about quality, durability, etc. I was at a parts counter the other day with water pump for my 140. Everyone remarked about it being first replacment on 1963 model. Two of the guys present had CaseIH tractors less than ten years old on their 3rd water pump. Both remarked how every time the pump goes the engine gets hot. I have been told of three new tractors in past week that farmers were without service of for a week during seeding. That was unheard of 35 years ago. I was clocking 1,000 hours per year each on Farmall 560D, 656D, 1066 and a Deere. I don't ever remember being without any of them for even one full day during a busy time. We worked with those tractors and it was obvious when something was not going to see you through next busy part of season.

And why wouldn't the corperate world believe they could cram these items down our throats. Look at those two corperate giants in Eastern Canada, took the lowly potato that could be bought retail for $0.20 per lb. most of the time. They turned into something called a Frozen French Fry and now charge the public 7 times as much for a pound of potatoes. I saw a statistic just lately that 80% of all potatoes in North America are consumed as french frys.

Remember the days when you could dicker 20% off the price of a new car or pickup. Try that today and they will toss you out in the street. No, Guy the public part with their money much too easy these days. AND MAN THE CORPERATE WORLD KNOWS IT.

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