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Re: the pics from clueless on a farmall tractor


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Posted by Hugh MacKay on February 22, 2008 at 03:22:36 from (216.208.58.183):

In Reply to: the pics from posted by blksvt04 on February 21, 2008 at 20:45:11:

I don't care how old it is, some basic items remain unchanged. Most modern day engines have an oil drain plug in the bottom of the oil pan, have an oil fill cap in top of valve cover, have a filter base cast into engine block. It has a dipstick, most modern engines still use that.

It says on the side of the hood you have a Super A, however it doesn't have a Super A engine, unless it is a Super A1. It doesn't have a Super A torque tube. You have a C-123 engine, used only in Super A1, 100, 130 and 140 offsets. It's not a 140 engine as the dipstick on 140 is forward of the oil filter. It also has lights that were used on SA1, 100 and 130.

If you truly want to identify what you have, check out all these items, and when I say ALL, I mean every damn one of them. None of this jumping from one item to the other without resolving anything, like you did on the other thread. Each casting has a casting date code, about 1/2" high digits and are day and month by number and year by letter cast in place. Between each of day, month and year it has what looks like a round head blade type screw cast right into casting. The letters are X-1952, Y 1953, Z1954, A-1955, B-1956, you can go forward or back from there. Don't bother with all of them, just do engine block, torque tube, hydraulic unit and transmission-rear end. The results of those will help identify what you have. Just an example on the hydraulic unit in your photo it shows numbers. The larger numbers on top are the part number, just below it is the date code.

Next go to engine just below number one spark plug on engine block casting. Clear away dirt and you'll find a machined flat surface. You will find letters and numbers STAMPED, not cast in place. Give me all those letters and numbers in order.

In the earlier thread folks advised you to look under seat on left seat support for serial tag, and that is true until sometime in 1954, after that the serial tag moved to left side of clutch housing. I suggest you look there for a serial tag.

If you give me everything I listed in the last three paragraphs, I can identify exactly what you have. I agree, I came down quite hard on you. I should point out, most of the respondants of the other thread, made one basic mistake, "Trying to give you advice without finding out exactly what they were giving advice for." Just one of the pitfalls on forums.


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