Posted by Farmboy856 on February 14, 2009 at 20:18:29 from (72.49.233.166):
In Reply to: 2150 Paint question posted by Farmboy856 on February 13, 2009 at 21:18:05:
Thanks for all the replies, guys! I really appreciate it. I tried to shoot some IH white(ivory) today and have come to the conclusion that some, if not most of my problem is in my gun. To answer a couple of questions:
Gene - I thin/reduce with mineral spirits because my local CIH dealer doesn't stock the IH thinner. When I asked him what I should thin it with, he told me mineral spirits. I usually trust him on most parts issues, because he has 30 years IH parts experience. As I said before, I was a complete inexperienced novice painting my first tractor 4 years ago. I would be grateful if you or someone can recommend a particular reducer/thinner. Gauger uses the CIH reducer, so I will have to get some.
Mike - My problem is indeed orange peel. Thanks for the clarification. I used the "fish-eye" terminology due to a retired bodyman's advice that I should add some fish-eye eliminator to help with the orange peel. This guy has been retired for 25 years, and doesn't seem to be too up on his paint knowledge.
Gauger - I paint with a newer-style El-Cheapo HVLP gravity feed gun (that was a Christmas gift from a loved one) at approximately 30 lbs pressure per the recommendation instructions with the gun. I have a better gun (the brand of which I can't remember now) that is the older style with the can on the bottom. I may get it out and try it. The HVLP one was spattering everywhere today (and sounded like a mig-welder part of time, no matter how I set the air) to the point that I stopped and completely cleaned the gun again and oiled the washer per the instructions that came with it. About the hardener--- do you think it might be contributing to the orange peel? How long does it take to dry with out the hardener? I painted some fender brackets and u-bolts a while back and just plumb forgot to add any hardener, and it took the better part of 3 days in the summer for the paint to dry enough to mount them. You're right about the reducer--- i'm not using enough.
Tractor Vet - You and others are probably right about me laying it on a bit heavy at one time. Can you give me any hints on how to figure out when the Flash point occurs or when I could apply the 2nd/3rd/etc. coats? I'm sure temp and humidity affect it greatly, but I'm wondering if it has to do with tackiness, or a certain look the coat gets to it? I know a lot of this comes with experience which I don't have. Again, any pointers will be appreciated. I'd love to be able to read what my hat says! After talking with you pros on this stuff, my hat should say "Pay somebody who knows what he's doing to paint your tractor". :-)
Gordo - Can you expand on the "slower reducer"? Are there different speeds of drying time with different reducers?
Glennster, Hal, and Mark - Thanks for all the tips/help and the link. Hal, I did psot this to the other forum after you recommended it. I had never noticed that forum on the list.
I'll let you know what the next spray job looks like. Farmboy856
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