Take the Oliver hands down. Yes the cabs are rattle boxes but I know the case cabs arent much better. Not that it cant be fixed but the steps coming out of the 970 are straight up and down. MAJOR pain in the neck getting in and out of it. 1850 only has 1 step that is a tad high but at least the step and platform are not on top of each other. IMO the 354 perkins is one of the best motors to be thrown in any tractor. If you look around there are alot of 1850s still giving it all they got. I dont see nearly as many 970's. And oh yea I will never forget the first time i shifted that stupid power shift while driving on the road. Darn near snapped my head off. Then on the way back I downshifted and nearly went through the windshield. Hydra power on the 1850 is WAY more smoother, but have heard of it going bad here and there. In the end buy the Oliver.
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