Re: NASCAR/ INDY

Posted by Hal/Eastern WA on May 28, 2012 at 14:35:38 from (97.119.244.50):

In Reply to: Re: NASCAR/ INDY posted by oldtanker on May 28, 2012 at 05:20:27:

It is hard to believe that people would be so gullible...the modern NASCAR "stock car" has almost nothing to do with the street models they sort of imitate. They are RACE CARS, more like drag racing Funny Cars than real STOCK cars.

I used to follow NASCAR quite closely back when the cars running were actually derived from cars you could buy and license for the street. The cars from the 60"s were remarkably close to showroom stock, with the addition of roll cages and suspension modifications. And most of the engines run were closely related to the engines you could go down to your dealer and order in your new car. The 50"s stock cars were even closer to what was sold to the general public. The idea of Win on Sunday, sell on Monday made a lot of sense. And you could identify whether the car running was a Ford, Chevy, Pontiac, Dodge, Plymouth, Chrysler, Oldsmobile or even Hudson.

But by the late 70"s, the cars started being more and more different than the cars the manufacturers were selling, and I lost interest in NASCAR. Then they started using body styles that used front wheel drive in production cars and I quit paying any attention. The cars all look more or less the same. NASCAR got boring.

If NASCAR wanted to become relevant again with lots of people, they would go back to the idea of seeing which STOCK (or slightly modified for safety) cars competed to see which one would win endurance races. Of course the speeds would not be as high, and maybe the drivers would not be as safe as they are in purpose built race cars, but then the races would mean something about which REAL product was best at getting around a NASCAR track for many miles at high speed. And Win on Sunday, sell on Monday would make some sense.

If I remember right, the first Datona 500 was won by a Plymouth flathead 6 cylinder, because it finished the race first by holding together, unlike the much faster OHV V8 Oldsmobiles, which couldn"t keep their tires from blowing out. It would be interesting to see what modern STOCK cars would do in a heads-up contest. They might get me, and lots of other car guys interested again.

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