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Re: Cost today, gas VS diesel?


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Posted by jdemaris on October 10, 2013 at 09:34:58 from (70.215.7.68):

In Reply to: Cost today, gas VS diesel? posted by oldtanker on October 10, 2013 at 08:21:30:

Where the heck are you getting figures of any
engine - gas or diesel - with 80% efficiency?
That's a dream. Some of the most fuel efficient
gas engines are reaching 35% and the best diesels
around 45%.

If a farm tractor company today was offering a
gas engine, I don't know what the price difference
would be (as compared to diesel. During the 70s
and 80s, many auto companies were using converted
gas engines for diesels and the price difference
was lower. That includes the Isuzu 1.8 and 2.2,
Ford-IH 7.3, VW 1.6, GM 350, etc. Tractor
companies in the 60s and 70s were also making
"same engine formats" in gas or diesel. If done
now- I don't know what would be used? I suspect
rather then retool, the engines today would be
totally different.

I suspect that if the best technology was used on
a gas tractor today and used here in New York
where gas is $3.75 and diesel is $4.35 - fuel cost
versus work done would be near the same with
diesel winning a bit.

The Oliver 1800 gas tractor made in 1960 held the
world's record for fuel efficiency in a gas
tractor. Made 74 horsepower at 13.2 horsepower-
hours-per-gallon. Mainly due to using high
compression that was usually taboo in a farm
tractor. That 1800 gasser had the same or better
efficiency rating at max power then many diesels
at that time including the Farmall 706, Allis
Chalmers D19, Ford 6000, Deere 3020, etc.

Diesel fuel has more energy per pound as a fuel
But diesel compression-ignition is less efficient
then spark ignition in a gas engine IF compression
ratios are the same. So far, there are no working
gas engines with CR ratios like 18-1 like many
diesels are using. So, we'll see.


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