Re: Old iron verses newer iron???

Posted by Chase_99 on March 23, 2015 at 11:36:02 from (66.181.210.29):

In Reply to: Old iron verses newer iron??? posted by JD Seller on March 22, 2015 at 07:43:28:

Just about every farmer I know with a new tractor (color don't matter) from say the last 4-5 years has had issues. Some small glitches, some major but all needed the dealer to hook up to software on the tractor and problem solve. Once they're off warranty and the dealer has to come out to the farm with travel its 4-500 bill. Then half the time they are on the phone with the factory. Now with newer and more complicated emission additions on engines it makes it even worse. Talk to you're dealer on how the new JD yard tractors (100-150hp) work in colder climates with all the emission issues. Know a guy at a JD dealer he says its a real problem But with that all said new tractors are sure ... nice!! ITs just a cost of ownership that has to be factored in I guess and farmers are excepting it. CIH dealer told me these machines are more complicated and farmers have to be more patient!!! Dealers have to have send their techs to school constantly to keep up with all the changing features.



Guy at the parts store told me he had a farmer looking for an aftermarket dash for his JD6410 as the dealer wanted $5000 for it!! That sounds high to me though. Nothing more frustrating

then being down in busy time of year do to some crappy computer board or sensor shutting the whole machine down. Then finding out its back ordered and takes 2 weeks to come in. Farming is weather dependent and farmers can't afford to miss windows to harvest, plant, make hay!!



Your JD6400 is in what I call the "sweet spot" of ag equipment. New enough to have all the convenient features and comfort but old enough not to be totally computer controlled and at the mercy of the JD dealer to fix issues. Equipment from say the early 90's to the early 00's seems to be quite popular and brings a premium used. I'm with you I have no interest in running the real vintage simple stuff with poor cabs or no cabs, poor hydraulics, poor gear selections etc. At least for what I used tractors for. I do have a couple old CASE tractors from the 70's, they are simple but still have decent enough cabs with A/C and decent enough trans. gearing.

I read an article saying that the farmer may own his JD tractor but the factory owns the software! AG equipment has not gone the route of auto's I'm told where there is a industry standard hook up for scanners and some generic emission/driveability related fault codes.

Know a farmer who has a couple nice newer JD tractors but is looking for a 3rd now ... a JD 4440 for his next one. He says just something simple and dependable my mechanic can fix on farm if needed!

This post was edited by Chase_99 at 11:44:41 03/23/15.

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