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Re: Fracking, well water, Reverse Osmosis


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Posted by The tractor vet on December 20, 2016 at 10:46:25 from (104.179.81.68):

In Reply to: Re: Fracking, well water, Reverse Osmosis posted by MarkB_MI on December 20, 2016 at 05:28:47:

I worked in the oil patch around here in the first run in the Clinton formation , now depending on what countys the drill took place the depth of those wells ranged from down where i live to up to 8600 plus feet deep to as shallow as 3200 feet up by the lake (lake Eire) . My job was to build the drilling locations help move the rigs in and out , supply water trucks to haul in fresh water for the drilling operation and haul off the PIT water and also haul in the fresh water for the frac tanks and then haul off the frac water once the well was swabed out and kicked off then go back in and reclaim that location . and the one company that i ran got into the injection well business . First thing we did was drill a well way deeper then any of the gas and oil wells into a porous rock formation , then while that was going on we dug and built huge dump pits made out of concrete and built in oil skimmers as with each load of pit water , frac water and salt water (yes salt water ) there was always some oil , not much but it was there with each load and had to be skimmed off . We built a pump house and installed a high pressure pump to inject the water down into the rock formation . First pump was rated for 1250 PSI and ran on a 10 Hp electric motor and was to run 24/7 and be able to pump in oil field terms 600 BBl 's and hour . This part of the operation was not in my job part of the operations as i was inchager of all dozers , water trucks , back hoes and track hoes all semi's pulling the lowboys and floats hauling pipe all the 380 frack tanks and the trucks that moved the tanks and the pipe line crews and equipment and all the mechanic's . In my office i had the company radio and i also handled all radio traffic . The injection well was doing a fine job for awhile with no problems , But one day Louie the guy we put up at the well to oversee it's operation calls me on the radio and said that the pump just up and stopped pumping and would not restart . So i get on the intercom an d call the big boss and tell him. He comes down to my office and gets on the radio and talks to louie a bit and looks at me and says lets go will take your truck as i had a good selection of tools and off we go and drive the fifty miles to the injection well . after some checking i discover that the fuses had blowen in the main box to the motor and a trip to the local hardware store got the pump back up and running . While Doug and i were still there we were watching the pressure gauges and in a short time the pressures started to climb way above what it first started out on as it use to run at 550 -650 psi and it was not long before it was peaking out a it's max of 1250 and causen the motor to pull more amps and it blew the fuses again . So we installed a bigger pump with a bigger motor and for two weeks it ran fine pumping at 1600 psi then the same thing started to happen . So once again we installed two BIGGER pumps with two 100Hp. motors and now we are pumping water at 2800 psi and now we are injecting water at the rate of 1200 BBl.'s a hour . about a month later while setting in my office i fell the building starting to shake rattle and roll and stuff start falling and people start running out of the building . Yep we had and Earth quake here in N/E Ohio , OH guess what it was centered yep you guessed it up around our injection well. And shortly after that the well would not take anymore water and here the thinking head said that we would be able to pump water down that hole for fifty years NOT . So after spending three million to build this set up it was done for . But that did not stop them as the EPA wanted more and so more injection wells were drilled and worked fine FOR A WHILE then Youngstown started having them . When that happened i was long gone from the patch But the one main player that got busted was at one time one of the partners involved in the first on . Now will fracing contaminate drinking water ???? It should not but if there was a failure in the casing of the well or a crack in the rock way down deep in the earth that runs from the frac zone to the ground water table then maybe . Fracing is the injection of water and chemicals and sand under extrem pressures till that rock formation fractures and allows the sand partials to be force in to hild that rock open to allow the gas and oil to flow . Now in the old vertical drilled wells it would allow the gas and oil to seep out of and area of about 40 acres . Now these new horizontal drilled wells cover about 600-650 acres and the tubing is perforated in many places to the end of the hole to allow them ot extract more gas and oil . they are deeper down and can run over a mile from the drilling rig . They use way more water then we did as back then a 10 -14 tank frac was common place and we would place 10-14 300 BBl tanks and fill them in a day , now they are using 550 BBl tanks and using over a million bbls of water and to fill these tanks they are running 10-12 inch plastic pipes buried in the ground leading to the well sights and instead of truck the water like we did for the most part are no pumping it. We started the pumping of water when we could if we had a stream or creek as a cost saving deal as we could place one or two guyas at a drilling location with a couple 3 inch pumps and what they needed and pump the water rather then having four to six 90 BBl water trucks running back and forth sucking water out of a stream or creek . with the three inch pumps we could pump about 1500 ft. with a booster pump half way Then we went to a four inch pump on a 2440 Deere with ft assist and with a second booster we could now pump 3000 feet .and fill in less time . Now are the chemical's used in the fracing of a well nasty , you beat ya .


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