Re: How much HP to pull a plow bottom?? Look as see

Posted by The tractor vet on October 01, 2020 at 08:17:34 from (104.179.81.68):

In Reply to: How much HP to pull a plow bottom?? Look as see posted by naylorbros on September 30, 2020 at 07:41:03:

Soil type , plow depth, and make and model plow will let you know how many bottoms . As a kid i spent many early spring weekends pulling 2x16 Oliver plows behind a O C 3 Oliver following a O C 6 with three bottom three points on it that was following a D 4 Cat pulling 5x16 John Deere . Then came the wheel tractors and first was a 560 Diesel then the 460 D was added and now with just two tractors we had 9 bottom in the same field with only two operators . four sixteens behind the 460 and 5 behind the 560 , both had the heavy tillage third . And both were tweaked a bit . New tractors and new plows , from drag to semi mounts . Mostly lighter soils . Then came the 806 and 706 and heavier plows . More Pony power but the tractors were way heavier and the plows were heavier , the new disc was way heavier and four foot wider . Never paid much attention to how certain model plows pulled till i went on my own . The first plow i bought were 4440 Oliver three bottoms behind a M D and they pulled nice and no problem pulling in third in heavier soil , Then the big up grade to a 450 D with fast hitch and a new to me set of plows and they were 3x14 311. My buddy had a 450 D also BUT he was pulling 4x14 semi mounts easier and faster . Both plows had super chief bottoms . One day i hooked to his four bottoms and found out that i could pull the four bottoms better then the mounted so the 311's went down the road and i found a set of 540's . When another friend's tractor went down i went up to help and hooked onto his Massey 880 four bottoms , same soil conditions but thought i was going to give the 450 a double hernia , god they pulled hard had to run second and kill lots of skeeters , Now i knew why his 560 with the turbo took a dump and i knew for a fact that my 450 could out pull his 560 as i beat him every tractor pull . tried a set of john Deere F145's and they pull hard , my first set of 710's that had the onland tail wheel pulled hard over the next set with the infurrow tail wheel and onland gauge wheel same bottoms just tail wheel location . The next big tractor i bought on impulse was a 1805 Massey and the next week i could not pass up a set of plows for it for 200 bucks . 225 Hp. four wheel drive duals all around and 8x18 's and dual Straight pipes , far cry from a 706 gasser and four bottoms and 75 Hp. It took every pony that tractor put out to drag four more bottoms at the same ground speed of five MPH . BUT what would have taken me a week of after hours farming to do it did it in one evening . One other thing that has changed in how many pony's it takes to drag a plow thru the fields is compaction , as our equipment has gotten much larger and heavier the ground has been getting harder , with the onset of the aid of four wheel drive we tend to push the limits of ground conditions like yea it's a BIT wet but i can get thru now that i have four wheel drive . And the size of stuff our silage wagons gone are the days of the 12 and 14 footers and being able to pull them with a old H & M farmall or john Deere A or B to now where they are to large for a 706 or 806 and tip the scales over 36000 lbs a load and that is not even stuff full. Run them over just lightly damp ground in the fall and come spring you will know where the wagons ran when the plow hits that spot . . I was watching a u tube vid on Big Bud , over 1100 Hp and weighs in at over 136000 lbs . It is amazing how far Ag has come in just my life time from when my uncle set me in the seat of that O C 3 to all the tonka toys i have been around in the 68 years i have been playen in the dirt . From what took three people to do in a long day to what just one can do .

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