Posted by the tractor vet on January 09, 2023 at 10:23:13 from (108.220.145.239):
In Reply to: Right to repair posted by Steve in VA on January 09, 2023 at 05:23:24:
with all the new fancy stuff plus the mandated stuff added to farm tractors today and the cost of the computers and soft ware a small guy can't stay up on it . And can not afford to even try. I swore i would never own a scan tool , well i lied years back after having and ISSUE with a car dealer over our one car and being loed to i bought a Snap On soluse (s p) good to 2008 . Then learning how to use it for and old goat was fun. Then we got a newer car and Oh wait it does not go and work on it and needs upgraded , CHA CHING bend over . BUT the snap on guy would take it in on trade for a new 5800 dollar one that would work for a LITTLE WHILE till the NEXt upgrade came along and for just 1200 more bucks we could up grade for that new model year . I feel sorry for the young guys tryen to get started in the trade and the cost they have to lay out for the CHUMP CHANGE they are paid and you are ALWAYS needing to BUY more tools to do your job . I know what i have put out to have what i need . Many years back i managed to buy out 90% of a I H dealerships service dept's special tools for I H tractors going back to the letter series up to the early 88 series . With only a couple tools missing and i know where they went . So i went looking for these other items and went to several other closing I H dealer sales LOOKING . and found MOSt of what i was looking for . What i did not get was the other tool needed for my flow rater to work on the closed center Hyd. as the one had two of them and what they went for was way over what i could afford , where i messed up that one day was one of the two laptop computers for the Magnum tractors , they cost the dealers over 10 grand a piece PLUS UPDATED soft ware and they were up to date at the time . they only brought 5-650 . I get advertisements for H D laptops for HD app.s all the time ranging in price of 4500 on up to over 10000 bucks . That tqakes a lot of service calls to justifie . Now not sayen i am OLD but when i first started twinen wrenches at a Chrysler Plymouth dealership the flat rate labor rate was customer pay was 7.50 and HOUR and i made 3.75 and hour flat rate , warranty work was 6.25 and and we got HALF and grumbled about Warranty work . As you learned you could beat flat rate on some jobs and then there were the ones that fought you from start to finish. Not having the parts needed to do the job was a killer , as we would say drive them in and push them out . As you did not get paid till the job was done . Then working in a big dealership with a bunch of mechanics sometimes the special tools ya needed were being used by someone else and you had to WAIT or ya BOUGHT your own More cost to you to do your job. Now labor rate is pushing up over 125 and hour and the guy doing the work sure does not see anyplace close to HALF and not even close to 1/4 . I was told by a few i never charged enough , i charged a FAIR price and was kept busy .
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