Re: AWS vs Zero turn

Posted by thejdman01 on February 04, 2005 at 17:04:53 from (205.188.117.7):

In Reply to: AWS vs Zero turn posted by Jagalluzzo on February 04, 2005 at 09:48:11:

being a jd technician for many years i have to chime in. if you get a lexmark or another zero turn or even a deere max z or like the f 687z so i cant be yelled at for being biased youll shoot yourself. the problem with the deere max z is the front casters if your going straight up and down hills fine great work perfect but if your going sideways at all or trimming around trees on a hill them front dollys wont keep you where you want to go. also thats still a midmount mower so if your trying to get a deck that stick out front to trim under pines etc that wont help you. the 687 and such suck beccasue on a ditch hill that back end will flop all over. the 450 series aws (425 445 and 455 aws) early ones had some problems and were very very expensive to fix......alot alot of happy people with pure 455's 60 inch deck. the 495's and 595's please veyr many pople too. i dont know your place set up needs etc but so so so much versitility with these models. i pusonally have a 455 w/a 47inch blower on it love it. yanmar motors very rugged. you can even get small loaders for them etc if your a horsey person. if you were looking for more the zero tern and a front mount to get under pine trees etc i highly recomment a f1145 f935's good too but i own a f1145 because of the 4 wheel drive and i tell you what it turns short 72 inch deck and has turning brakes and will turn true zero turn. i mow some steep steep steep ditches no joke. w/the 4 wheel in and the diff lock she stays planted doesnt slide down the ditch ive gone father on that mowre then ive tried w/other mowers and i went as far as when i was driving it the left side no joke was getting very light and starting to come up but she didnt slide down the ditch at all. also with the 2 speed transaxle shell really mow. i also have moved a 30 ft camping trailer around our shed with the mower and honest to god high side at idle and she didnt even know it had it. problem with the f1145 or the 1445 and such is they are very popular with landscapers etc and finding a used one in good shape is hard but can be done. i dont know what your price range is. you can again depending on where you look you can find some that were used on private estates on a yearly trade low hours good shape but the landscapers like to beat them silly. i challenge you to a price a set of blades for any other mower then go to deere and price them. for my 72 inch even w/o discount i can buy them for 60 bucks. next look how thick a deere blade is. also what the blades are made out of. i have seen simplicity lexmark alot of mowers come in on trade you hoenstly suprised me simplicity blades i feel are the worse. but thats another story soft and thin. also alot of companys incliding simplicity not to knock them but there commercial moweres arent that heavy but anyways the 2 outside blades are a different size then the center. deeres blades are at least all the same length so if you hit a post rock or something and tear a blade up terribly and you get another set you can keep the 2 other ones and can be used at alater date . a simpicity and some other companies simplicityjsut comes to mind cause recently working on one the 2 outside blades are one length and the center one was longer. also jd you have drive shaft drive to the deck which is very nice. personally from what ive seen the 455 series decks aer better then deeres new ones for cutting wet grass. alot deeper the old ones that is. the new ones do a decent job but i dont htink quite as good as the old ones did if you mow when its wet. the new ones 490 480's the new ones and if you have an older one have a new style blade you can put on its got sort of a twist to it supposed to help w/lift havent seen any in action to know if they do or not. i have seen gus with old ones w/steel tops not plastic make a small ramp and drive over there deck instead of sliding it out although not a big deal on a hard serface when you change the wheeels. but the dekc is darn near 300 lbs on the 60 inch. alother thing about deere they do have trans coolers which helps longer life and even down to the deck the caster wehels the "anti scalping wheels" even on a deere have bearings and can be greesed. alot of other just have plastic molded wheels. there throw away junk you keep a deeres greased shoudl last forever. theres alot of little things that make a deere a deere. you get what you pay for. as im looking around my shoulder somone comes out of the works and kills me for saying so. kubota makes a decent compact series and a tad cheaper then deere. always have been everytime deere lowers there price kubota does to theyve always been few hundred cheaper new alot cheaper used dont hold resale value. i do knwo honest there dealers arent nearly as many and parts network not as good honestly most parts if ordered by 3 today will be here next working day. thats my imput i really dont think youll be happy with a zero turn on hilly land unless you go with a 1445 or f1145. they new 495's 62 decks do turn pretty tight. if your seriuos im sure a dealer will let you try it out. honest your on the wrong end of it trying to buy a mower. right now is when you should be buying snowmobiles when evyerones getting rid of them. reason i say now is the bad time is everyone buys mowers in spring so selection down also in fall 1 yr trade ins so you can find slightly used ones still udner warrenty also in fall any new ones left over the dealer makes heck of a good deals to get rid of them for new models.

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• Re: AWS vs Zero turn JT 10:47:47 02/05/05 (0)
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