Re: Attention NY truck / trailer operators

Posted by Billy NY on June 08, 2006 at 11:09:29 from (64.12.116.74):

In Reply to: Re: Attention NY truck / trailer operators posted by Bret4207 on June 06, 2006 at 16:50:31:

1.) "Whiners and hysterical ninnies"

I just don't like the tone of it, especially coming from someone who wears a highly respectable uniform as you do. That is a negative generalization and or possibly an insult directed at everyone who participated in the thread. I know what your point was in doing so, to get everyones attention, it's just the way you did it I think you could have done it in a much more postive tone.

I also think that with the internet and all the information available to us, most people are aware and are highly informed about things they need to know about, at minimum everyone knows doing some research will usually yield the information they are seeking.

For example; I've had tresspassing problems here, before bothering a NYS trooper about it, and taking his/her time away from something that may be of much more importance, I researched the applicable V&T and penal laws and found what I was looking for, like the 1st offense $250 fine etc. etc. now when I saw my neighbor who is now BCI, it did not take long to discuss appropriate action, I was more interested in catching up, had been awhile since I've had a chance to BS with him. I thought he was a tresspasser and by chance it was him out for a ride with his son.

The same can be done with this regarding commercial trucks and the current laws, changes, updates, bulletins, clarifications they are a pain in all walks of life, especialy civil service occupations. Someone may have posted in haste about this, so what? A better person would simply state that there is a lot of information available and you should review it if it applies to you, and by all means pursue it with your local NYS people, be it law enforcment, D.O.T. etc. If were me I'd have looked it up and posted the links if possible, ( obviously if time permitted, I'm way too detail orientated and go overboard anyways when it comes to matters like these ) I see no need for slander or remarks as above, at least in my opinion. Yeah big deal I know, but really, for some darn reason it stuck and I for one just had to take some slight exception to it. You make yourself sound as if the 20 years has taken its toll. I hope that is not the case, I've known a few case hardened ones too, not good.

I think it's unprofessional and unbecoming of someone in your occupation and I think you may probably realize that, you're an educated, trained person in a highly professional law enforcement capacity that still and should always command a lot of respect in our society here in NYS. When you make a statement like that it detracts from the uniform you wear and the demeanor of your profession. Basic and or the academy was a long time ago for most of us, we are not a bunch of grunts here, just developing thick skin at the hands of a D.I. who is building strong people.

Don't mind me, I've got thick skin anyways, now beyond the above, you made some good points, one of which is communicating with your associates about the topic of commercial vehicles and the laws. This does have merit and anyone who needs assistance would most likely benefit. I've always found that the people I've dealt with in the NYS Police were highly respectable and sincerely professional, even when receiving violations, getting pulled over and or any other matter I've had to deal with. I even used to assist one trooper with the portable scales every time he pulled me over, he found me with 4 different outfits over a 5 year span, once in a group of 40 trucks, I used to joke with him about how it's me all the time that he's pulling over. Usually a tad over the gross or the axles, not much, but enough, it's real hard to judge weights when being loaded and how many places actually have scales to double check. He's since retired and I hope doing well, Trooper Malloy was his name.

I grew up next to and have lived next to a barracks for about 35 years and have seen one crew retire, some of which have passed away, and many of the new crew come up, also many in between whom are my age and also wear the same uniform you do. A lot of people I grew up with pursued this career, some whose parents retired from the NYS Troopers, there is a lot heritage around here with your organization and probably the reason I responded, you have a lot of support and appreciation here due to the professionalism of your service to the people in this state.

One of the best things about that is not per say being able to drop names ( which is wrong ) of people you know, but the ability to speak to any of them regarding issues like the above and or other matters when it comes to the law, especially when faced with problems such as Vehicle and Traffic Law, Tresspassing, Commercial Trucks, and Criminal situations you may have to deal with. Be it a total stranger, or a trooper I know, I've always been able to meet with and discuss any potential problems with them, and figure out the best course of action, there is nothing wrong with that. Butting heads never gets the job done. Being well informed, educated and keeping a positive outlook no matter what, gets the job done.

Way off the original discussion here, not sure this even came up

Politics, that's a tough one, got to make changes when they're due, and put the best in office, even if the best is not running, all you can do is vote, lobby, petition, organize etc.

The border, well this is true, I was on a large project as a construction professional '98-'99 where the people you apprehend and are convicted end up, specifically when they screw up so bad in the regular correctional facilities. You know the place, on Bare Hill Rd, nice epoxy floors and stainless steel fixtures. Know the area well, borders there are not that hard to breach, we need something done about that.

Also spent a good part of my construction career in NYC, including being there the day no one likes talking about, including me, whatever needs to be done to prevent this from happening again needs to be done, this undoubtedly applies to vehicular traffic and people crossing our borders, it's not going to be easy and it's not going to please a lot of people, neither did what happened that day.

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