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Re: No one is responsable.


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Posted by tn terry t on July 31, 2008 at 19:24:01 from (64.12.116.144):

In Reply to: No one is responsable. posted by Hal (WA) on July 31, 2008 at 05:11:33:


NE IA said: (quoted from post at 21:40:06 07/31/08) Been firefighter for thirty plus, and EMS that long also. My opinion is I have to make the call regardless if you have had a week or so to observe better places. Maybe if you voleenteered you would understand as well. You are complaining about beans---ain't worth a hill of beans to me if we are trying to save a life. Any idea in dollars and cents what a vollenteer fireman or EMS donates in dollars and cents?

I'm sure that you all have ideas on how profitable our units are. Try it for goodness sake and see for yourselves. I can't think of any farmer in our area that would have the kahonas to even ask a neighbor for money. Most I would guess probably would have offfered you some sort of settlment, but again no one would have asked.

Let this drift over your minds if you need the dust off, and they don't come. We live in a small rural area, and we hear pages go out to neighboring towns numerous times with no one responding.

This is not intended for us old guys, buy maybe your kid or grand kids might also get a chance to ride one some day---except there are to many bean fields in your area, law suits. insurance claims. So they no longer try.

For Goodness sake they make mistakes, we do every call probably, but we get lots and lots of thank you's, and hugs from those that are very very thankfull. There are a few rotten beans in every field, and I'm probably one of them. We use alot of poor judgment, and seldom pay the price.

If you make a stink with the EMS / fire department they will hate your guts no doubt, but in the end they will still do their very best to try to keep you alive if your guts are hanging from your belley some day. --- bean field or no bean field, or you could have a super large cement pad that you can think of after the fact, because you see it every day. In the mean time I would suggest you stay out of their way while they try to save a life that is less important than beans.

Now if they are a vollenteer department they will probably sign a donation card for your income tax if all else fails, and you talk to them in a reasonable manner. Those volenteers are as a whole ---pretty good folks. Many may not know the differance between a bean field and a rock pile. And while you only see them in a parade in a shinny new truck---well any idea of the hours of training, lost wages, and family problems they must face. And tax money probably just pays for their liability insurance. Any idea also how many hours of maintinance it takes to keep those trucks in tip top shape? Unless you wear the shoes, you have no idea, and there has sure been alot of those that tried it for a while, and found out that its not alot of fun.

Our EMS unit just recieved three new vollenteers three months ago on a Monday night, Wed morning a new guy followed me into our silica mine to help /observe a lady run over by a Cat 988 (I think) 10 yard end loader-- tip of the toe to the top of her head--any idea what that looks like? Fri. eve a 22 year old took a shotgun in the face. We were of no help in either case, and a heck of a way to break in a new man. His biggest remark made to me is 168 hrs of class room, and all the ride alongs did not prepare him for his first week. Want to talk about problems?-- Ever enter a mine when we are no allowed to go in? We are still dealing with that issue. I will be more than happy to pay for your beans if you promise to pay for our fines. Buy the way --the mine opened in the early fiftys, and that is the very first death inside the mine. However the road that takes us there I have probably loaded a dozen dead ones. Yet we can not go into the mine because it is not safe.

I babble alot, but I hope I help you understand why I'm not as concerened about some beans as some of you folks are. I'm sure the settlement in court will pay for some of your legal fees. You will probably sit in front of a judge that knows less about beans than any five year old, or for that fact---the attorney that will be happy to take your case. But a Judges decision will be the only opinion that counts.

I realize was very unkind, and out on my limb, but we were just informed about our hazmat classes, and don't even get me started on this home land security scam to the tax payer. Hitler would be proud of our government control, and a need to create more government jobs.


DAMN! AINT NO WAY I COULD HAVE SAID IT BETTER ive been the fire service since 1984 around here the EMS can only call for a bird not first responders ,police, fire so i guess its their fault :D i had a homeowner come out one night to tell me to land the bird somewhere else( a good wide spot on a public road) cause it would wake up his wife :shock: i told him he better carry his a$$ back in that house while he still could


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