Well, For Dumb!!

Been fightin' this silly disc since forever. Adjusted everything, moved this and that, just could not get it to stop ridgin' to the outside.

Finally figured it out after 3 years of use.

Some nincompoup sittin' in the driver's seat was drivin' too darned close.

Darned front gangs just do not like any overlap at all. NONE! :>(

When the call came out for 'brains', guess I must have thought they said 'trains' and ran. :>)

Allan

Been there done that n got the T Shirt...... I sort of miss farming sometimes, but then again not all that much lol

I HATED ridges or valleys when disking, I used the smaller outrigger blades on a disk and even the little shovel in the middle to try and make my disked fields look all nice n level so you couldnt tell where a disk had ever been. Big spike tooth harrows or drag boards also worked but they didnt back up all that well lol

Look on the good side,,,,,,,"If it all blows up n goes to H(e)ll, look at all the stories you can tell"

Have a good one my friend

John T

Looks like you need new rear tires

Been there done that n got the T Shirt...... I sort of miss farming sometimes, but then again not all that much lol

I HATED ridges or valleys when disking, I used the smaller outrigger blades on a disk and even the little shovel in the middle to try and make my disked fields look all nice n level so you couldnt tell where a disk had ever been. Big spike tooth harrows or drag boards also worked but they didnt back up all that well lol

Look on the good side,,,,,,,"If it all blows up n goes to H(e)ll, look at all the stories you can tell"

Have a good one my friend

John T

Oh yeah,

That's a yearly undertakin'. Country is full of deer and antelope antlers. I'm forever pokin' a tire.

Biggest worry now is that darned wedge lock on the right axle. Stinker is walkin' in on me. :>(

Allan

Are you saying you use the front gang to fill in the ridge left by the previous round? I always overlaped a little. Maybe after 60 years I'm learning something here.

Had the same agenda on this late model 637 JD, towed by a 4440 w/ fresh engine. I adjusted it under advisement of my long time farmer friend, til he thought it was right, was ridging in the middle, the outside has smaller disc"s, been awhile, not all that bad to adjust, but not so easy to find that sweet spot. Around here you really need a wing man, his darned brother kept hooking on to things in the hedgerows, some people just don"t belong in a tractor, he"s one, have some nice repair photos, thing was new in "08.

Looks like we got it right in this corn stubble

Guess that was my thinkin' too as I've always overlapped a tad to make darned sure I'm gettin' it all.

But this silly 480 is really fussy about it and ya gotta "drive" it pretty darned close to perfect. If that outside blade isn't cuttin' new ground (at least a good 6" worth), it'll ridge every darned time.

I've fought it and fought it for some time now and this finally was the answer.

Oh yeah, and the thing has the furrow fillers both front and back. But that front end really "plows" to the outside in this soft wheat stubble.

Bonus was that the extra cut really adds up in a round. :>)

Allan

You run 'em just like I do. Clear up to the nubs. :>)

Allan

I"ve got an International disc that looks just like yours. Like you, I"ve adjusted tht piece of junk 40 different ways from Sunday, and CANNOT keep it from ridging. The outer front gangs are the problem. I finally started pulling a railroad rail behind the disc and that helped (a little). Problem with that is, in real loose ground the railroad rail piles up to the point of stopping the tractor in its tracks. I'm pretty sure my disc is a candidate for the scrap yard. I don't think I could stand to sell it to someone knowing it's a pile of junk. I even spent a bunch of money on it with new disc's and bearings etc. In fact, I'll just give it to you Allen. Come and get it.

I had the same mindset until the light finally came on yesterday. I even thought the silly thing was "sprung" (which it wasn't).

Move over and cut new ground with that outside front blade. Promise ya, the ridging will disappear. :>)

Allan

Yes, and you have to set em down easy on the go, raise up a bit in the turns, boy they sink right in and man what a heavy piece of iron on your back, we had 60 acres on this farm in corn that year, and I think he intended to moldboard this place every other year, anyhow I think I did 2 passes before it was planted. The last crop at this place was oats and landowner chiseled then we disc'd before planting, funny there still seems to be a fair amount of mold board going on, has to be the soils around here, you want to hear this thing clanking in the rocks at my place.

I had that problem; my cure was to park the disc. that was 20yrs ago and i haven't missed it since. raise better crops with alot less input.

Nice pics.

Here in our clay, disks were abandoned decades ago. Keep one in the grove for the odd need, couple acres. Cornstalks grow too lush for a disk to bother them any more, and the clay ground packs like one is using a sheepsfoot with a disk.

All field cultivators here.

Your duals are so close, must be dry weather where you are. My tractor has the duals spaced to straddle 30 inch rows. While good for rowcrops, it's as much to let the mud fall through.... Duals like you have set up would be a big mud ball, no traction, in our wet soil types.

--->Paul

Thanks for the heads up! I didn't know what I was doing wrong with the disk either. What I'd like to know is, why is it I get the ridges with the wheel disc & not the wheel-less pull behind? I wouldn't think it makes a difference.

Mike

Trust me, I will try that. But how do I get rid of the dang ridges already in the field? If I ever can get my fields leveled up, I"m going strictly to no-till. 'Going "across" the ridges in a hay field is a real pain.

I can still remember my dad saying that if you use a disc, you will get uneven fields. That was about fifty years ago. )

I've always wondered what kind of compaction issues we have in these soils, either its not much of a problem or we have a bunch of farmers behind the times LOL ! Well, I can't say for sure what is still being used for tillage across the board, but there still seems to be a fair amount of moldboard/disc'ng going on, however its the same game input/yield, so I would think farmers would be aware as to what is going to get the best results, I'll have to ask as I know a couple of the larger ones around, its always had my curiosity, you see it mentioned here all the time that these things have gone to the wayside.

Our soils are glacial till, some clay, loam also a bit of gravel, stones, rocks, well drained to an extent, but you get wet spots of trapped water, that will get you stuck quickly. There are lots of rolling hills so that helps too. This field was still wet, but workable, I am not sure what the arrangement on those duals was, new tires, had to go with duals to pull that 637 around here, it performs well, and I've seen some excellent stands of corn on fields worked with it. I often wondered if subsoiling is ever done here and what the effects are, all those years of this kind of tillage, I have seen small areas in fields that do seem to compact and there is no doubt as to what it does to the yields. These shots were 2 years ago, I had been helping this guy on/off as needed, first time I ran anything this size, lot of grease fittings, LOL ! I remember one afternoon, doing a bunch of adjusting and him testing it out in an adjacent field, seems after quite a bit of fiddling around we finally got it adjusted right, then it was up to the guy in the cab !

That's what I was thinking. If it was a little soft or muddy, there's no where way for the tires to self clean and push the mud out. Who ever put them on must have been a perfectionist though. The tread bars are lined up perfect with each other. LoL