TSC hydralic oil

Isacc · Feb 28, 2012

does anybody know if TSC(tractor supply) hydralic oil is as good as john deere oil? sure big difference in price deere dealer told me deere gets oil from 3 different suppliers

BCnT · Feb 28, 2012

my JD dozer doesnt seem to mind what brand hydraulic fluid it marks its spot with...i use tsc,wally world,napa...whatevers on sale...look at the fine print on label...should have a list of specs for different brands of equipment...see if your spec is on it.

buickanddeere · Feb 28, 2012

As long as you are certain the oil in the pail meets the specs printed on the pail. Counterfeit oil, filters and bolts are a problem with mainstream suppliers and more so at discount stores.

M Nut · Feb 28, 2012

I know "cheap" hy-tran is NOT the same as hy-tran from Case I.H. My 886 hydraulics ran extremely hot, to the point the oil began to break down using the cheap oil. I changed the filter and put in new Case I.H. oil and it runs completely cool now.

mkirsch · Feb 28, 2012

I don't buy that the tractor somehow "knows" what oil it has in it. Oil is oil. If it's wet and slippery, and not too thick or too thin, the tractor can't tell the difference.

You could run olive oil in the hydraulics and the tractor wouldn't care. It might start to stink after a while once the organics in the oil go rancid, but other than that, no difference.

The additives help deal with different types of contaimination, nothing more.

Green Porsche · Feb 28, 2012

The Hydra-Trans meets the specs called for by JD, Cat, Case, etc.. I've never had any issues..

buickanddeere · Feb 28, 2012

Try a non wet clutch oil in a machine with wet friction material.

Mike Aylward · Feb 28, 2012

My question to you is "which way would you rather be wrong?" Would you rather pay "too much" for an oil that won't give any problems or pay "a lot less" for oil that very well could cause trouble and end up costing way more than the savings of oil cost in equipment repair costs (not to mention down time). The tractor DOES care what oil you put in it and especially what oil you mix with what is in there now. Hope this helps. Mike

JDB · Feb 28, 2012

No, it is not. While you may not have any problems, consider the price of rebuilding the transmission and hydraulics when purchasing hydraulic oil.

LJD · Feb 28, 2012

Are you talking about hydraulic oil, or combo trans/hydraulic oil? If you put regular hydraulic oil in a transmission - regardless of brand - you can have big problems. If you are using an equivalent that meets the manuf's specs - I wouldn't worry about it.

I've heard all the gloom and doom about using non-Deere oils, even when rated as meeting the Deere EP, viscosity, and wet-clutch specs. I've used oils from TSC, Central Tractor, and Agway for years. Zero problems. So have many of my neighbors and so did many of our customers when I was a Deere mechanic.

As far as what suppliers Deere uses - who cares? What counts is the specs the oil must meet and the additives in it - regardless if from Deere, Walmart, or TSC.

randy hall · Feb 28, 2012

if the oil meets the specs it's ok. reindeer oil is high priced.

onefarmer · Feb 28, 2012

I'm going to say no. I put new brakes in my JD4320 four years ago. Use 100% TSC JD rated oil. Last year I had to replace the brakes all over again. The bonding was dissolved and facings fell off. This time I put JD oil in it. Was just a few dollars more then TSC anyway.

VicS · Feb 28, 2012

If the oil meets the spec, like JD 303 fluid. The problem is. People go into their local parts store and say. I need some cheap hyd fluid. The parts man gestures towards the AW 15 hyd oil. I was in the store the other day and this happened. I spoke up and said don't you have a 1086 IHC. You shouldn't use that in your hyd. They both looked at me, with the what the hello is it to you. I went into a little tirade about how it isn't just a hyd oil but a trans, torque, and diff oil too. He did buy the right oil that day. Don't know if the counter guy cared, or not. Vic

speed · Feb 28, 2012

I split 5 tractor that my customers was using the cheaper oil in and all 5 of them needed about clutch disk in the tractor.Liner was falling off of the disk on all of them but cant prove it was the oil i guess.But did find it funny that all ran the same oil.

NEKS · Feb 28, 2012

Instead of TSC why not go to your fuel supplier that handles one of these Shell, Conoco, or Cenex. This might be one of the companies that supplies JD.

dej(Jed) · Feb 29, 2012

Oils are not made by JD, Case, etc. They are made by jobbers who buy spot market base oils and then add an additive pack. It is like making a cake; add this, this and then that, heat and mix at 170 degrees F. Lots of room for error. You never really know what you are getting. Hydraulic oils used in trannys have particule size issues, so the additive packs must only contain additives that can flow through certain size servo valves.

(fuelsandlubestechnologies.org)

Texasmark1 · Feb 29, 2012

Here we go again. Read the label on the container. Lot of small oil companies produce this after market oil. They produce it to the specs listed on the container....funny how one oil satisfies the requirements of just about every equipment mfgr. out there.

As said, the tractor suppliers don't produce/process oil. They put out a spec, probably half a dozen bid on the job, someone wins, puts the spec oil in the correct color can with the correct name on it and ala, you have "branded" oil.

Think about this for a minute. Where do you purchase branded oil? At the dealer. That means that to get your specialized oil, you have to go the the dealer. OHHHHHHH but wait a minute. The dealer is where the new tractors and implements are and to get your brand oil, you are exposed to such. HMMMMMM. Do I smell a marketing ploy here?

Naw. They wouldn't do that!!!!!!!

My 2c
Mark

Texasmark1 · Feb 29, 2012

Not so. There are anti-foaming agents, rust preventatives,
pressure tolerance additives, possibly viscosity modifiers, and all.
Lightweight refined oil is clear. Take a look at the color of the oil in
the Trans/Hyd. container. Has a pretty decent brown color
attributing to the additives.

Mark

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