Some people at shows

Richard G. · Apr 14, 2013

Went to a local tractor show yesterday, mainly just to see some folks I know. Saw a nice JD H and a man standing behind it. Looked at the card on front and it said 1950 JD H. I told the man I had an H that I used to cultivate the garden. I also said, very nicely, that I thought JD quit making the H about 1947. I knew of course but was trying to be nice.
He got kind of huffy and said,'No, they made them into the 50's. Want to buy another one?'
I just said no thanks and walked on.
Richard in NW SC

John T · Apr 14, 2013

My data shows 1947 also...Yep while most (not all) antique tractor folks n farmers and ranchers are good hearted old fashion traditional Christian Conservative type of gents, THERES ALWAYS A FEW GROUCHES AROUND LOL

God Bless yall

John T

Bill(Wis) · Apr 14, 2013

The H was an economy model by John Deere to compete with the likes of Ford. By 1947, the war was over, gasoline was no longer rationed and the tractor horsepower race was just getting started due to more PTO driven equipment with higher horsepower requirements, etc. The H, not much of a tractor to begin with, was now not needed anymore. While it's true that JD stopped making them that one could have been sitting on a dealers lot for a long, long time. Could have been finally sold, still "new" in 1950. So, that guy might have been right for the wrong reason. Or maybe the other way around. I only knew about one model H quite some distance from us. The only thing the guy used it for was to cultivate corn. He left the cultivators on year around. In those days the John Deere cultivators were not the easiest to put on and take off. (B 4 Quick-Tach).

Richard G. · Apr 14, 2013

Just because it might have been sold in 1950 does not make it a 1950 model. Don't get me wrong, I am not a stickler for details or a purist when it comes to fixing up a tractor. I keep my 3 antiques running so I can use them on my place. They have to earn their keep.
Richard

Ellis Kinney · Apr 14, 2013

I made a mistake once and said I had a 1953 SMTA. I was talking to a guy with a nice Farmall M. You would have thought I had insulted his wife the way he burreled up and started yelling at me. I said nothing and left. Ellis

Leroy · Apr 14, 2013

In no way was the H to compete with the Ford that was against the B tractor. Ford had nothing that would compair to the H. The H was equal in power to 2 horses while the Ford was compaired to 4 horses as was the B John Deere.

old · Apr 14, 2013

I have run into that many times. Like the guy who said he had a WD45 but the engine had a bolt on plate on it and it also had a straight shifter. Or the guy who said his car was factory original but it had aftermarket aluminum valve covers and both guys got mad at me because I called them on what they had. It is the stupid and uninformed that some times make collecting thing bad for others

D beatty · Apr 14, 2013

Hay come guys you know your surposed to be kind to dumb animals. LOL!!

Bill(Wis) · Apr 14, 2013

If you are able to post something that makes sense, I would be happy to set you straight on this matter. Your post makes no sense whatsoever. History lesson #1. Henry Ford introduced the N to replace a team of two horses on the average 60 or 80 acre farm. That was in 1939. cost = about $600. John Deere introduced the H in 1939. About the same weight and power as a Ford 9N. Cost=about $650. About the same HP each would pull about +/- 2000 lbs at about 2+ mph. Each would handle a 2 row cultivator. Ready to make some more comparisons?

Ultradog MN · Apr 14, 2013

Am I reading your post wrong or do you have your tractors mixed up? John Deere H was about 15 hp and the 9N 23 hp.
The Farmall H was closer to the 9N at about 26.
Numbers are from external_link - Nebraska tested belt hp.

John M · Apr 14, 2013

Where was this show? Hate I missed it!

Richard G. · Apr 14, 2013

(quoted from post at 08:53:06 04/14/13) Where was this show? Hate I missed it!

Townville, SC on the border of Anderson and Oconee Counties.

ss55 · Apr 14, 2013

I will ask questions, but I don't try to correct inaccuracies that I see at tractor shows or car shows. The idea is to have fun and enjoy the day, arguments only ruin the day for both parties and those who have to live with us.

LittleD · Apr 14, 2013

The last "H" was built Feb. 6th 1947 and was serial number 61116

Nebraska Test #312 showed Belt horsepower at 12.97
Drawbar horsepower at 9.77

Whichester1 · Apr 14, 2013

I see mistakes too but seldom say anything. I may ask "is that correct, did not know that model was made then.." Sometimes the displayer will ask for more information (nobody is perfect). If not I just smile wishing him well and move on.

Adirondack case guy · Apr 14, 2013

Leroy,
According to above info., the JD H was equivilent to 9.77 horses. HeHaw.
Loren, the Acg.

pete 23 · Apr 14, 2013

Am I right here, the John Deere H is the only two shoter to have the belt pulley run bassackwards off cam shaft.

Royse · Apr 14, 2013

I had a for sale sign on one of my tractors at a show.
A guy came up and asked me if I really thought it was worth
what I was asking for it "in that shape".
Then proceeded to point out every flaw he could find.
He wasn't trying to buy it either.
He handed me his tractor repair business card and told me to
bring it to his shop he would fix everything that was wrong with it.
Probably wouldn't cost much more than I was asking for the tractor.
Great way to drum up business!
I just said thanks and chuckled to myself.
I sold the tractor as it was a couple weeks later.

Richard G. · Apr 14, 2013

Yep, you are right.
Richard

Leroy · Apr 14, 2013

Loren, You are Case and not Deere so did you realize that at one time John Deere did rate tractors such as the L drawbar load of 2 horse team, then the B was rated as doing the work of 4 horses and the A was rated as doing the work of 6 horses, They did not compair the G to the horses. Now the L is the smallest tractor and that plow is a single bottom 12" plow, the H is rated as 1-16" in normal conditions, the B is rated for 2-14" bottoms under normal conditions and the A at 2-16" bottoms under normal conditions, the G & 3-14 and the D & 3 or 4-14". The Ford was designed to pull 2-14" bottoms and was midway in nebraska test power between the B and the A tractor. So why would they put out a tractor with less than half the power of the B to compete with a tractor that was between the B & A in power? And a single bottom walking plow takes 2 belgins to pull, put that bottom on a sulky plow and they put 3 belgins on it. And on the 2-14" Case plow I have setting here to repair they put 5 belgins or possibly 6 belgins on it. The 3 belgins would pull the load that the H tractor was pulling. And my friends only use the belgins for everything except the buggies then at times it is a retired trotter race horse. And I have seen some walking plows out in the fields this spring along with the single bottom sulky plows. And I hope you can help me with this Case plow.

showcrop · Apr 14, 2013

(quoted from post at 08:24:38 04/14/13) If you are able to post something that makes sense, I would be happy to set you straight on this matter. Your post makes no sense whatsoever. History lesson #1. Henry Ford introduced the N to replace a team of two horses on the average 60 or 80 acre farm. That was in 1939. cost = about $600. John Deere introduced the H in 1939. About the same weight and power as a Ford 9N. Cost=about $650. About the same HP each would pull about +/- 2000 lbs at about 2+ mph. Each would handle a 2 row cultivator. Ready to make some more comparisons?

Didn't Ford come out with the LGT 12 to compete with the H?

36F30 · Apr 14, 2013

Gotta love them Deere advertising Boys, claiming in the advertising "Now for the first time in the history of agriculture, a smaller lower priced general purpose tractor" They seem to forget that Farmall made 150,000 F12/14's before this. Kinda like they claim the first diesel tractor even though the McCormick Deering WD40 was out years before them.

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