Help me price Ford 5000 for friend who's husband died

Shealray · Sep 24, 2014

I have a friend who's husband passed away about 4 years ago he was a farmer.
She now letting go of some of his equipment and asked me to help her sell the equipment.

One of the tractors is a gasoline Ford 5000 with a front end loader. Normally I would be able to get a since of pricing for her, but the tractor has not been run in 4 years and the clutch is out. I tried starting it a year ago and it did not. I know the gas in the tank will have to be drained along with cleaning the carburetor and new battery for starters.
The Ford 5000 is in a machine building and kept out of the weather.

Her husband was a machinery mechanic and going to fix it himself. He told her it would take about $1500 to do the job. I am guessing if it was sent to a shop it would be around $2500.

So sold as is with front end loader maybe $3000 would be a good price.

What do you think?
All comments welcome.

Thanks for the help.

mkirsch · Sep 24, 2014

Unfortunately, she will have a very hard time getting more than 10 cents a pound for it non-running with the clutch out. In other words, scrap price.

What you have to understand is, the buyer is taking a chance based on someone's second-hand account of the tractor's condition. The widow only knows what she remembers/understands of what the husband told her. Plus there is always more wrong with a tractor than originally thought, ones the seller may not be aware of that will surely come to light after the tractor has reached its new home. The buyer could very well end up with nothing more than scrap metal.

If you can find someone to put a little time into getting the tractor running again, then you can start talking about 4-figure numbers for price.

paul · Sep 24, 2014

If you get it running and the clutch is weak but it can move a
little, yes.

As is right now, I kinda agree its a lump of iron worth $700-900
plus $500-1000 for the loader.

You can't show anything works at all, I'd have to assume the
engine is just as trashed as the tranny.....

Paul

LAA · Sep 24, 2014

It hardly ever pays to hire someone to work on this old equipment, there just is not enough money in it. If there is good demand in your area a consignment auction might be a good bet, there are usually more fools and their money at auctions than at casinos.

Bryce Frazier · Sep 24, 2014

Where is the tractor? If it is close enough to me, I will give you $1500 for it as is... Bryce

JMS/.MN · Sep 24, 2014

A big plus would be to get it running, and it may not take too much to do that. Buyers may be understanding about only the clutch being out, if the rest of the tractor looks good. Loader itself has value, as well as condition of rear tires. I tend to value above scrap price, but overall condition has an impact.

El Toro · Sep 24, 2014

You should post a picture of the tractor showing the tires. It may cost more to repair it than what you could sell it for. Sell it as is with no warranty. Hal

tractorguy2 · Sep 24, 2014

which model of a 5000 is it?

El Toro · Sep 24, 2014

It's in Missouri. Hal

Whichester1 · Sep 24, 2014

This route takes seemingly forever but if you have a technical school they might do the job for parts only. You or somebody else will have to do the legwork chasing and paying for parts, etc.

tomturkey · Sep 24, 2014

Well if he tore-up the clutch using the loader, wonder what else is broken. Loader tractors can get abused. 900-1500 looks like the range for the condition you have described. jmho or my .00cents worth gobble

2underage · Sep 24, 2014

OK, everybody is an expert on just about everything., including me.

I have bought and sold many, many tractors over the last 40 years and I attend about 20 equipment auctions each year. A ford 5000, not a SOS, but 5 speeds with a ford loader will bring more that $2500 even with a bad clutch. Ask $3500 or more. You can always come down but I would bet that you will not need to.

Fordfarmer · Sep 24, 2014

Being a non-running gasser hurts it... a lot. Too many other
variables (like tire condition) to make a good estimate, but as-is
and without the loader, I'd say you're looking closer to $1000
than $3000. Maybe $1500 if the tires are good.

sotxbill · Sep 24, 2014

(quoted from post at 11:53:38 09/24/14) I have a friend who's husband passed away about 4 years ago he was a farmer.
She now letting go of some of his equipment and asked me to help her sell the equipment.

One of the tractors is a gasoline Ford 5000 with a front end loader. Normally I would be able to get a since of pricing for her, but the tractor has not been run in 4 years and the clutch is out. I tried starting it a year ago and it did not. I know the gas in the tank will have to be drained along with cleaning the carburetor and new battery for starters.
The Ford 5000 is in a machine building and kept out of the weather.

Her husband was a machinery mechanic and going to fix it himself. He told her it would take about $1500 to do the job. I am guessing if it was sent to a shop it would be around $2500.

So sold as is with front end loader maybe $3000 would be a good price.

What do you think?
All comments welcome.

Thanks for the help.

this model, the clutch plate will rust to the flywheel.. If it has set a long time.lllll

usually you can break it loose by running it in gear and stomping on the brakes while holding the clutch pedal down.

Or pulling it in gear with the cluth pedel in and the ignition off. the compression of the engine will put pressure on it.. you keep the clutch pedal in and keep stomping the brakes... till it brakes loose.

Fordfarmer · Sep 24, 2014

Misread that.... thought you had said w/o loader.
The loader could add $500 to $2500 to the value, depending on brand, condition, etc. So if it's a fairly new, quick-tach model, from a company that's still around, the total value could be $3000-$3500.... but as I said before, too many unknown variables to say for surem

RodinNS · Sep 24, 2014

I think it's more in the 1000 range for price
depending on the tires... Now if it has a newer qt
loader... Mabey a lot more value there... But as a
non running 5000 with an ancient loader, no clutch
and not running.... Nah 1000 is MAbey more than
enough. It's easily going to cost 1500 in parts go
make it workable just on what you describe... Plus
probably 2 days labor at whatever your shop rate
is locally.. Keep in mind as a good runner it's
only a 5k tractor.

NNP · Sep 24, 2014

I like reading these posts.
Shows I should move.
There are pretty much NO $1k Fords here (NY), any year, any model, any condition. When you hear of one bought for that or less around here....he was lucky...before me and a dozen guys just like me heard about it...(we contact and we offer to pay more than the asking price on those as we are hooking up the trailer)

no loader gas 3000, single range trans, didn't run at all, engine was free, air in the tires, just brought $2600 at a recent auction.
I dropped out at 1500....and it was what I would consider....junk.

While I agree, a diesel is worth more than a gas especially if a farmer is the one looking at it,
A non-running hulk for sale, I would be more interested in the gas one. I can get that gas one running on the cheap, a diesel...maybe not so cheap.....

Sell it to Bryce at his offer. He'll fix it and we can follow along

deene · Sep 24, 2014

could you email me at [email protected] thanks

Traditional Farmer · Sep 25, 2014

To say its only worth scrap price is silly plenty of good salable parts and the loader at the very least.She'd probably be better off just dropping it at a consignment sale where the tractor isn't known things like that usually bring pretty good and she won't have to deal with a bunch of knuckleheads low ballers.

mkirsch · Sep 25, 2014

Yeah but unless you buy it at scrap price there's no "meat on the bone" in selling the parts. You'll spend months or years getting back to break-even regardless.

Auction is definitely the best place for it. You might get lucky and end up with a bidding war over the tractor.

Traditional Farmer · Sep 25, 2014

Any parts yard will pay way over scrap price for a 5000 Ford

RodinNS · Sep 26, 2014

Not for that one... What are they gonna scrap out unless it's got a good usable loader? This one has no clutch, probably no tires, a non running engine and who knows what else... What's left is not exactly high turnover parts on a 5000. I would say it's worth about what it makes on the scale unless there is visibly a LOT of good parts... but even then, the same principle applies... nobody is going to pay big dollars for something to just get their money back some time down the road.

Rod

Traditional Farmer · Sep 27, 2014

I go to consignment auctions all the time and its a very very rare thing that a scrapper gets a tractor like a 5000 Ford and its usually a burnt one thats sat for years they get.Parts yards buyers and even individuals will always go over scrap price.Lots of good parts it sounds like on the 5000 and after taking off the parts most of the weight is still there anyway to sell for scrap.Hardly any part on a 5000 won't
sell eventually.Ever priced a bare block for a 5000? That'll go way over scrap price for the whole tractor as on a good scrap price would only be around $500 and I'd buy 5000 Fords all day for that kind of $$$.

RodinNS · Sep 27, 2014

Yeah, I know what the blocks are worth, bare. I also know what they're worth full of pinholes in the bottom of the jacket... which is much to my point... when you're buying a pig in a bag full of unknowns... I would not be paying much over the 500 mark unless there is known tangible items easily visible that are worth more. Others may want to... so be it.
The 5000 I bought two years ago is a half decent runner. Needed remote hoses replaced, new seat... no fenders... had a flat tire that needed a valve core. 2k in auction. I ran it from 1200. That's more common here.

Rod

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