How am I going to get this thing home???

56oliver · Feb 17, 2015

Here's the deal... A lady I know said I could have this old plow, thanks to you guys I know it's an old IH little genius... Tommrow I think I'll make the long cold trip on the tractor to try and get it. But here's the problem/question. The back steel wheel, I have no idea the name for it but you guys know what I'm talking about. It looks like it's "down" so it drags on the ground...Can I raise it up so that I can pull it down the road or am I going to have to use my truck and trailer? The tires do hold air, that is the only real problem other than the fact that its on this old farm and it is down on the other side of two hollers in a river bottom and about a mile and 1/2 from the road. That's why I don't really want to trailer it if I can just pull it.

Mike(NEOhio) · Feb 17, 2015

That's the tail wheel. It runs in the furrow and supports the rear of the plow when it's raised. Just take it easy on the speed and you should be OK.

cole in mo. · Feb 17, 2015

Pull the two levers all the way down, that will help.

bill mart · Feb 17, 2015

tow mine 2 miles on the road every year to my brother in laws with no problem.bill

C. Amick · Feb 17, 2015

The tongue is hinged. Run a chain from the front part of the tongue back to the top cross member on the plow body. Shorten the chain as needed to bring the tongue up. Stand on the tongue when hooking it up to make the plow come up. Got it?

Adirondack case guy · Feb 17, 2015

Well first off you need to get it up out of the hollar and up to the road, with your 77. then if the tires are still up, attach a come-A-long to the rear diagonal brace, and string it over the framework to the hitch, and tighten it up. That will pick up the rear wheel, as long as the hitch is sound and won't come uncoupled from the tractor drawbar. It may want to wag it's dog tail if you go too fast with it behind the 77 going down the road. I sure hope it is warmer there than here.
Loren, the Acg.

Russ from MN · Feb 17, 2015

Grease the tail wheel bearing and drive slow!

Frank 41 · Feb 17, 2015

If you had a quick coupler on your tractor, fold the hitch up or take it off. Then make sure the lever is out of the way. Lower your 3 point and chain the front of the plow to the lower part and the tail to the upper part and raise it up. If that won't clear the back wheels, lift the tail wheel up with the 3 point and pull it backwards.

56oliver · Feb 17, 2015

Thanks for the help

jeffcat · Feb 17, 2015

Wrap the tail wheel in a few layers of Duck tape. Keep it from getting all chewed up. If need be. Red green.

wolfman · Feb 17, 2015

Attach to drawbar as if you were going to pull it; Have a good
strong pig pole on your 3-pt; have two or three chains with
you. Hitch pin, chain it to the pig pole, lift off ground and
head for home . I used to haul an 8-ft drag disc from garden
to garden that way with my 656.

tim(in) · Feb 17, 2015

If it's like i'm thinking take a rope and hook to the trip. When you pull and the plow and the rear wheel should raise up and it will ride in the air. At least i know the allis one did from what I was told and seen in pics.

BushogPapa · Feb 17, 2015

Our old 2- bottom JD plows were hydraulic but would raise the rear wheel up, as they had a link from the front cross-member, to the plow hitch (had a spring on it).

Usually needed to lower the plow a little so the rear wheel was on the road to keep it from swaying bad..(those use the Twisted Clevis)..

Ron.

BushogPapa · Feb 17, 2015

Nice Find..!!

Are those Cast Iron Moldboards..?

Take along a Twisted Clevis..that plow may need that to hook it to your drawbar..

gtractorfan · Feb 17, 2015

By my experience pulling a plow like that the normal way it wants to "fishtail" like a trailer with negative tongue weight. I was to a plow day and saw at least one tractor and plow arrive pulling the plow backward with that steel back wheel chained to the drawbar. This way the plow goes down the road without swaying.

farmerjohn · Feb 17, 2015

A dozen years ago I got a little genius on all steel wheels, pulled it home about 8 miles on paved roads, it was fine.

Ray · Feb 17, 2015

Do you have a 3pt. hitch on your tractor? If so back up to the rear steel wheel,throw a chain around it,lift it off the ground,tie the hitch up and away you go.

26Red · Feb 17, 2015

Its a mechanical "trip lever" lift plow. Hitch it up to your
drawbar. Attach rope to trip lever on right side. Pull the plow
forward with the tractor, and give the trip lever a yank to start
the mechanical lift while moving. The tail wheel will be off the
ground then.

LA in WI · Feb 17, 2015

Simple and quick way to stop a trailer plow from swaying: Raise both levers (which causes the plow moldboards to lower) until the moldboards are about 2" off the road surface, that causes the rear wheel to have a different "angle" of support. I have a #8 with all 3 wheels on rubber. I can drive down a road in 5th gear, throttle 1/2 open, with my H Farmall and there is no sway...honest injun. But if I forget to raise the levers all heck breaks loose!

When you get to when you have to turn into a driveway just watch the moldboard clearances...when you enter a field or farm driveway you can then lower the levers (raising the moldboards) and just drive slow to your destination.
LA in WI

Traditional Farmer · Feb 18, 2015

Take the tractor with a boom over on the trailer,go fetch the plow,load it on the trailer if you don't have enough room for it and the tractor,take the plow home come back and get the tractor.It'll beat freezing.

HenryO · Feb 18, 2015

Mine is on steel and the rear wheel comes up when the plow comes up. Should be no problem. I used it last year on about 4 acres and it worked fime after much grease , oil rope etc.

Leroy · Feb 18, 2015

Not on that model, it is designed to ride on that wheel all the time. It is a Little Genious plow, now the Little Wonder plow would be as you say.

krm · Feb 18, 2015

If you have a tractor with a front loader on it you can chain it to the loader and haul it home. I did this and it worked good for the mile I had to travel. Make sure you tractor is heavy enough to handle it.

Leroy · Feb 18, 2015

That is backward. Doing that positions the axles almost straight up and down and shortens the wheel base. Yoy need to raise the levers just so the bottoms clear the road and that moves the wheels farther forward and lenghtens the wheel base and with the axles at an angle with the bottom forward they will not move as much in the holders to let it do wipping. Take 2 vice grips and clamp the rod on the tail wheel so it cannot move at all and also use a solid mount, Not a pin mount, clevic on drawbar that you have fixed so it cannot move the lest bit as any movement in the drawbar-clevice will make weave worse. All the ones that say the tail wheel lifts are wrong, they are thinking about the type of set up that the Wonder plows used and the Deere 52 & 4B plows used, Deere did not use a carry tail wheel untill the 44 plows and then it was an option like the Genious and Case Centenial used.

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