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Allan in NE · Jul 8, 2015

The guys in the shop say I ran something thru 'er. Had to have been a deer fawn as near as I can tell. :<(

Allan

1130Leo · Jul 8, 2015

So, they did not find a siezed bearing?? Or do they think the dents were before the bearing?

Allan in NE · Jul 8, 2015

They said the bearing wasn't froze and judging from the pickup, something big ran thru 'er. Can't see it in the picture, but the roller was beat up in two places.

Raining here since 3am, so good time for it to go down I guess.

Allan

Billy NY · Jul 8, 2015

Some of the comments on the earlier post said it looked like something went through, vs it seizing up and twisting, either or same darned result.. down time and $. So the back up was the baler you went through one winter, many moons ago you showed us?

The thing about the bearings and heat etc, with all this kind of equipment that is running on larger acreage and long hours, how would one monitor for hot spots, one of those things you point and it tells you temperature ?

I know of one close call with that on a 6620 combine, which I greased regularly, low side of a back field, it almost went up and several thousand later for the in field repair, one lousy bearing that more than one 6620 owner was not aware of under cab, and this farmer had all the books on it and guided me through all the fittings as I greased this machine.

I suppose its best it never got hot given the potential, not so good for the fawn. I had one go through a rotary mower a few years back, in front of its mother, there was a twin at least, did not make me feel much better about it though.

donjr · Jul 8, 2015

If that's the case, you'll find it when you feed or spread.....

RodinNS · Jul 8, 2015

My Claas has lifted some 20# rocks over the years with it's pickup... and yeah, that's the kind of damage they do sometimes. Although I can't say I've ever had one damaged to the degree that the baler couldn't keep working. Usually they just run for a few more years and metal fatigue causes the roller to fail... and those rollers have no shaft.

Rod

Robert Major · Jul 8, 2015

Hi
I saw your original post on this, we run one of those 688's, I was figuring then it was something went through. To twist one of those rolls like you first thought, would of wrecked something else or slipped the drive clutches i'm thinking as it would of been a tremendous amount of force when it stopped near dead.
have you lost any large pieces from equipment in the last few years. Maybe you just found it or something somebody else lost years ago, or a very large rock or piece of wood hit just right to go through. I ve had some pretty loud bangs from rocks in ours, and had to stop and find them.
Regards Robert

Fred Werring · Jul 8, 2015

Gave $16 for one of those point and shoot infrared thermometers...while it seems accurate, what I'm really looking for is differences in temperature between bearings.

It works great for that, a whole lot faster than climbing around my baler trying to feel how warm the bearings are by hand.

Fred

Karl in MD · Jul 8, 2015

We ran a 20 inch spyder bike through a 6600 John Deere cutting beans. Some bike parts made it all the way through, along with parts of the feeder house, cylinder, concave and beater. It got real noisy before it got real quiet.

RGMartin · Jul 8, 2015

I don't think it was a fawn. Fawns are squishy, and get squished when going through hay equipment, don't ask me how I know.

Janicholson · Jul 8, 2015

Maybe the two pieces of Feeder straps got wadded up and ingested. If you stopped right away, the guilty component should be in evidence. Jim

01gentdc · Jul 8, 2015

feed the last bale you made ,,.rite now ,,,.you mite find a cultivater shank or sumthin ...that's how I found the starter side panel to my 4020..that was luky too,. I recall hitting a sweeping tree limb ,when it was getting dark,and all I had was the outside windrow left ,.. ,, since it was a partial bale ,I normaly feed those directly rather than tie off ,.. did not realize the panel was misn til I found it in the bale feeder..

Allan in NE · Jul 8, 2015

Good idea. I'll get 'er hauled in.

Allan

rrlund · Jul 8, 2015

What the heck are those New Holland's made of anymore that you can dent a roller like that by running something in it? I put a little dent in the packing roller on my first Gehl 1500A with a rock,but I've been running other Gehls every since and God only knows what I've put in them. Never put a ding in an upper or lower roller in one.

Allan in NE · Jul 8, 2015

These are thick, heavy rollers. I tried to straighten the goofy thing out with a 10 lb sledge and couldn't even touch it.

I still ain't buyin the "ran something thru 'er" scenario either. I did notice tht the last few bales were building lop-sided and the tailgate really yanked hard when I opened it that last time.

Still think it has something to do with the mechanics of the beast. Don't think the sledge was pivoting like it should.

Allan

rrlund · Jul 8, 2015

I think you could well be right about a shaft being broke inside. Cutting it open with a torch would find out.
I wonder if there's just a short shaft welded to each end or if it has a shaft running all the way through? I've seen drums made both ways. If that one has a lot of torque and not just something a belt rolls on,which I think it the case isn't it,that it's a drive roller,it would make sense to have a shaft the full length inside.

Allan in NE · Jul 8, 2015

Yes,

It's the drive roller and I don't know what's inside of it. But, all the internal supports are ripped out of it as well. Every spot they were welded to the outer skin.

Also, it is the roller that the whole sledge pivots on. The right side never would take grease and I'm wondering if it finally just froze solid to the baler frame and couldn't move with the size of the bale?

Dunno,

Allan

MF#1 · Jul 8, 2015

Must have been the Terminator deer if it was. Something very dense caused that. You didn't happen to see any Washington politicians out there did you? Any one of their noggins could have caused that ;-)

mtf · Jul 8, 2015

Best I can remember that shaft doesn't go all the way through. Our first belt roller was a used 660, not that different mechanically than yours. We had trouble every couple years with the bearing on the left side of that roller going out. That gear has several cap screws holding it on. Once you remove them you can see inside it. Did you have any bearing failure on either side? By the look of the pickup your baler doesn't look like it has rolled that many bales. I know that roller is very thick and I find it hard to believe this was something you picked up. Keep us posted. Nathan

ohiodick · Jul 8, 2015

the sledge pivots on bushings the bearings are bolted to the sledge also the shaft driving roller is welded to the end off roller just a stubb. i had one made at machine shop for half of new.

dhermesc · Jul 9, 2015

I didn't think it was a seized bearing. As heavy as they are to have put a twist in the metal like that would have taken some very serious HP and most likely the seized bearing would have ripped free the mounting or the shaft snapped first.

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