The egos..........

Goose

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• May 3, 2016

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The egos of some farmers never cease to amaze me. And I say that having been a farmer once myself.

A local farmer appeared at this morning's County Board meeting bragging about a grain hauler he'd bought that was 70' long and could gross 110,000 pounds. He then launched into a tirade because some of the county roads he expected to travel wouldn't accommodate the truck and said he expected the county to rebuild several miles of roads, including several intersections he deemed unsafe. This on the assumption (without asking) that one of his neighbors would willingly sell enough land for a right-of-way for a half mile of new road.

The fellow ended up by stating he expected to see some action within a year.

Uh, this is not the way to win cooperation from the County Board.

 

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paul

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• May 3, 2016

• #1

Are you in Wisconsin? Don't get to go over 80,000 in most other parts of the country I think?

Yea, honey works better, talk with the local road engineer and other such to see where you can push and pull and get someone on your side quietly, before appearing in front of the board with demands.....

Paul

 

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Russ from MN

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Bemidji MN

• May 3, 2016

• #1

I hope they catch him overloaded and burn him!

 

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oldtanker

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• May 3, 2016

• #1

I hope they tell him where to stick both his hauler and the road he wants.

Rick

 

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keh

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• May 3, 2016

• #1

Does he want a 1/2 mile of NEW road built or an old road widened?

KEH

 

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Ken Combs

Member

• May 3, 2016

• #1

Boy, not what I expected at all. Judging from the tile. I expected another political thread to bite the dust.!

OOps, I think I may have just did it!

 

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gtractorfan

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• May 3, 2016

• #1

Michigan is one state that allows big haulers.

 

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WGM

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• May 3, 2016

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Anything over 80,000 lbs is illegal most everywhere. The guy sounds like a jerk.

 

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01gentdc

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• May 3, 2016

• #1

that many axles under that rig is easier on the pavement and base than a 18 wheeler hauling less payload ,..to keep roads from getting beat to death ,,. our county has considered having weight limits of trucks during the frost thaw season,.so far we have decided to simply build better roads ,,. we have spent 4 million per yr since 1999in the road dept ,in a county of 39 ,000,,.

 

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Brown Swiss

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• May 3, 2016

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He just needs to be a big shot on the county board! I have a feller that is a big shot on the county board a mile and half from me and they just widened the road and started at his place!

 

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Dick2

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• May 3, 2016

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Now all they have to do is notify the sheriff and/or the DOT, so they can watch for his truck. Or the county could just hang tough for a year or two and, if commodity price predictions come true, that BTO won't be around any more.

 

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vscummins

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• May 3, 2016

• #1

Ya and the truck to haul that much would have 9 axles or even 10 he's putting less stress on the road than guy that works as a wal mart greeter that gets off work and loads his 2 axles truck to 25000 . I don't like some of the guys attitudes either but I hate worse the guys that think every big truck is always doing more damage . Then there's the citiot that crys about the equipment on the road and everything else. Move back to the city and starve for all I care

 

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farmerwithmutt

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• May 3, 2016

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Different operators make a difference some people seem to think because ma and pa and uncle sugar gave them everything there more entitled then others. We have one that loads grain on the road needless to say a cart coming out of a wet field makes a mess plus blocks the road and the grain on the road is like driving on marbles. Other farmers load in the field and try not blocking the roads. Trouble is there going to make rules to control the bad one and the good ones get caught in the cross fire

 

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Greg K

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• May 3, 2016

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Wow! That's sounds like an urban county, that's over 6 times more than we have lol. They shut down guys from hauling grain at times of the year, usually can haul in the morning when it's frozen.

 

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RodinNS

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• May 3, 2016

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I'm always a bit mystified when I read about you folks with your 80k weight limits on 5 axles. Any listed road here can carry 91,300 on 5 axles unless there is a specific bridge limit... and 111,100 is the norm here on 6 axles in a tridem setup. I don't get what you gain from running 5-10 ton lighter and making half as many trips again? The roads still get beat to snot anyway...

Rod

 

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farmerwithmutt

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• May 3, 2016

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Your on to something a lot of milk trucks are running multiple axles. They say in the long run its lighter and if you stop and think if you loose the fifth wheel and equipment with it a straight truck can haul more then a semi at least with milk

 

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john in la

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What part of in La do you not understand

• May 3, 2016

• #1

80k is only a couple of decades old. Use to be a lot of states you could not haul 80k in till the feds stepped in and forced all states to allow 80k. Still have some states you can not be 80k on roads that are not in the federal highway system.

 

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RBoots

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• May 3, 2016

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Local DOT ticketed a guy from Texas for being 21,000 lbs over during frost laws here in MI. His response: "what are frost laws?" LOL

Ross

 

M-MAN

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Bostic, NC

• May 3, 2016

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You fellers must do things differently up north. Here in nc if you want a road you have to build it to state specs and then they might take it off your hands. The county has nothing to do with the roads. That's all on the state dot. Don't know what our rural roads can handle but you won't get anywhere near my place with those loads without collapsing a bridge. Lots of low weight bridges here.

 

T in NE

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Location

Cambridge, Nebraska

• May 4, 2016

• #1

How does he figure on running 105 thousand when the state only allows 95? Or is he paying for an overload permit?

Methinks he should have looked more into what would fit into where he needs to go before he looked into how much he could fit in the trailer.

 

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coonie minnie

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• May 4, 2016

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Just out of curiosity, what state are you in? That wouldn't fly here (WI).

 

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Bret4207

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• May 4, 2016

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I've seen a lot of people buy a piece of equipment and THEN wonder how they can move it. Around here the big thing is to blame all road damage on Amish buggies and wagons than might haul a ton at the very most. They fact BTOs are moving 100k lbs+ spreaders and trac/trailers up and down the roads isn't considered, even though anyone can see hte damage starts at their driveways. Now I don't deny those BTOs are paying a lot of taxes, but it's ridiculous to think you can move enormous weights over roads not designed for them day after day and not have an effect. I don't care how many axles you have, it all takes a toll over time.

We can't afford to rebuild roads. It's simply not possible here. So we patch them and resurface every 10 years or so. It would cost our town alone around $100 million to rebuild just our main town roads to an 80K standard. Impossible, we've looked at it. Yet people want larger and larger trucks carrying product going over roads that we designed for 40K lbs at best. And the same people complain about potholes and bad shoulders....

 

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Bill(Wis)

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• May 4, 2016

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Wisconsin DOT regulation 348.17 (5) allows for a "Fall annual exception" (Sep 1 thru Dec 31)for the transport of certain specified agricultural products up to a maximum of 15% over the registered max allowable gross weight of the vehicle which in the case of an 80000 lb five axle vehicle would come to 92000 lbs.

 

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Donald Lehman

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• May 4, 2016

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Same thing here in Lewis county. By the time we pay all the unfunded mandates, and welfare, there ain't much left to service the ones who actually pay the taxes.

 

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dhermesc

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• May 4, 2016

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You want to see egos.


Similar situation, county commissioners were meeting about the condition of several roads. Meth cooker and general lowlife that is renting a house a mile down a dirt road gets up and starts complaining that "her" road is dirt and only receives minimal maintenance. A commissioner points out that the house she is living in is the only house on the road and sits empty more often than it is rented. She says she doesn't care she wants it at least graveled if not paved.... The commissioner explains to gravel road would require an increase in property taxes for all the land owners in the county. Her response was "I don't care raise their taxes it doesn't matter to me I rent".

They finally shut her up when one commissioner told her if she wanted a house on a paved road she should have rented or bought a house on a paved road.

 

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dhermesc

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• May 4, 2016

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In Kansas the annual overload permit is $200(?) for 120,000 pounds. but you still have to abide by all the bridge weights which can really limit your ability to get around - much less up and down gravel roads.

 

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farmer boy

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• May 4, 2016

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I don't understand the low weights allowed in most states. Michigan (and here in Canada) makes sense to me. The same(or less) weight per axle, but overall, less weight is driven down the road when you have higher allowable weights(to move a given amount of freight). As far as road damage goes, more trucks moving the same amount of freight doesn't save your roads.