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I knew three guys that tried grain trailers. They all ruined there pickup transmissions. I don't recommend one.
 
(quoted from post at 14:17:44 10/28/17) I knew three guys that tried grain trailers. They all ruined there pickup transmissions. I don't recommend one.
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Tractorguy,

How does a grain trailer wreck a transmission? I would think a load of grain would be more stable than a load of equipment and be better to pull. Did they badly overload their trucks? Were they older automatic trannys? I'd like to know because I too would like a grain trailer.
 
Rockyridgefarm, I agree. I don't see as hauling grain would be any different than hauling a loaded flatdeck around, or hauling gravel, or dirt, or anything else in a dump trailer behind a pickup. All boils down to how heavy were the loads and how rammy was the operator.

To the original poster, any dump trailer would serve well as a grain trailer. Build extensions if necessary, and build or buy a grain endgate. I personally like the Precision brand, built in Manitoba. The Precision flatdeck goosenecks that I've had have served me exceptionally well. Pricey, and heavy, but well worth it for the quality.
 
rockyridgefarm: IT is the weight that does it. Most of the ones that where around here would hold more like 400 bushels. Way over what you would want with most common pickup trucks. Then load it in a soft field and you have a heavy load that is hard to start. I do not know of a single one still in operation around me.
 
My son was telling me about one this afternoon. Wellsburg Iowa. Call 319-240-3477 or 641-750-3692.Triple axle. appears to be about a 16' box. His picture looked good.
Probably about an easy 4? hour drive. All four lane in Iowa except last 5 miles.
 
(quoted from post at 14:59:28 10/28/17) Rockyridgefarm, I agree. I don't see as hauling grain would be any different than hauling a loaded flatdeck around, or hauling gravel, or dirt, or anything else in a dump trailer behind a pickup. All boils down to how heavy were the loads and how rammy was the operator.

To the original poster, any dump trailer would serve well as a grain trailer. Build extensions if necessary, and build or buy a grain endgate. I personally like the Precision brand, built in Manitoba. The Precision flatdeck goosenecks that I've had have served me exceptionally well. Pricey, and heavy, but well worth it for the quality.
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The real difference here is that a pickup with an auto trans has to take whatever you give it when you press the pedal. Conversely a "real" truck with a real transmissions has low gears for those tough starts. The owners manual will tell you to select a low enough gear that you don't need to give it ANY throttle to get it rolling.
 
(quoted from post at 05:44:08 10/29/17)
(quoted from post at 14:59:28 10/28/17) Rockyridgefarm, I agree. I don't see as hauling grain would be any different than hauling a loaded flatdeck around, or hauling gravel, or dirt, or anything else in a dump trailer behind a pickup. All boils down to how heavy were the loads and how rammy was the operator.

To the original poster, any dump trailer would serve well as a grain trailer. Build extensions if necessary, and build or buy a grain endgate. I personally like the Precision brand, built in Manitoba. The Precision flatdeck goosenecks that I've had have served me exceptionally well. Pricey, and heavy, but well worth it for the quality.
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The real difference here is that a pickup with an auto trans has to take whatever you give it when you press the pedal. Conversely a "real" truck with a real transmissions has low gears for those tough starts. The owners manual will tell you to select a low enough gear that you don't need to give it ANY throttle to get it rolling.
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If I understand correctly, guys who wrecked transmissions overloaded their older automatic transmission pickups and then blamed the trailer. Got it. If I have a manual 4wd 1 ton dually, I put in 4lo when pulling out of fields, and keep the loads under 250 bu, I should be good?
 
Its been awhile since I worked on a rear dump
Donahue. If I remember right the cross sills were braced a little better to keep from tipping back when the bed is raised.
 
(quoted from post at 05:44:08 10/29/17)
(quoted from post at 14:59:28 10/28/17) Rockyridgefarm, I agree. I don't see as hauling grain would be any different than hauling a loaded flatdeck around, or hauling gravel, or dirt, or anything else in a dump trailer behind a pickup. All boils down to how heavy were the loads and how rammy was the operator.

To the original poster, any dump trailer would serve well as a grain trailer. Build extensions if necessary, and build or buy a grain endgate. I personally like the Precision brand, built in Manitoba. The Precision flatdeck goosenecks that I've had have served me exceptionally well. Pricey, and heavy, but well worth it for the quality.
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The real difference here is that a pickup with an auto trans has to take whatever you give it when you press the pedal. Conversely a "real" truck with a real transmissions has low gears for those tough starts. The owners manual will tell you to select a low enough gear that you don't need to give it ANY throttle to get it rolling.
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And that all comes down to operator. Someone that knows what they're doing with an auto can run circles around someone bad on a stick. And vice versa. Calling a manual transmission a "real" transmission is rather funny too. A lot of the big planetary drive heavy haul trucks and winch trucks around here are running Allison autos.

But, here I bow out. This is not the right place to debate the merits and drawbacks on autos vs. manuals.
 
(quoted from post at 16:43:42 10/28/17)
(quoted from post at 14:17:44 10/28/17) I knew three guys that tried grain trailers. They all ruined there pickup transmissions. I don't recommend one.
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Tractorguy,

How does a grain trailer wreck a transmission? I would think a load of grain would be more stable than a load of equipment and be better to pull. Did they badly overload their trucks? Were they older automatic trannys? I'd like to know because I too would like a grain trailer.
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Because the average guy can't comprehend that just because the trailer has a "400 bushel capacity", that doesn't mean you can actually put 400 bushels of whatever you want in it.

There's a big difference between 400 bushels of dry corn and 400 bushels of soybeans or wheat that got harvested at high moisture. 400 bu of corn might weigh 22,500 pounds. 400 bu of wheat that was harvested at high moisture could well weigh a full ton more. And of course the problem gets worse as you move to a bigger trailer.

And then the average guy looks at what he's got to haul and says, oh hell there's only 1 strip left in this field. I don't want to haul back and dump, then come all the way back for that last damn round. It'll fit! So he augers on an extra 50 bushels. Just this once, mind you! Of course, it's wet as hell...

Then on top of that, the average guy thinks a pickup is a pickup when comes to towing. Got the ol' Farmer's Friend F150? No problem, that'll pull 500 bushels of wet corn plus the 50 extra that was left in the bin and would have caused a second trip.

Load 'er on, son!

Grouse
 
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