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31,968 hours on this JD 4450

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I bought this tractor in March of 1994. It is a 1983 JD 4450 with a Quad Range transmission. It had 3200 hours on it. It was my all round planting, baling, spraying tractor for the next 5-6 years. Then I bought a larger TMR wagon and had to put some thing larger than a JD 4020 on it. So it pretty much has been hooked to a TMR wagon ever since. At around 15,000 hours I overhauled the motor. Compression was getting low but the crank was in spec. So I did not split the tractor and just rolled a new set of main bearing in. So to my knowledge the clutch is the original. A few years ago my one son bought his in-laws farm. We moved the tractor and TMR wagon to that farm. He has to pull up a pretty steep hill to get to the cattle yards from the lot where the silage bags are. Last week the JD 4450 started slipping when pulling the hill with a full load. I had took time today to check the clutch pressures and it has a belly ach. LOL So it is split time. We are going to completely go through the transmission while we have it in the shop.

I am wondering how many hours we will get on the tractor in my son's life time????

Think a "new" tractor will hold up for 25 years and 30K hours??? I think not with the computers on them.

This tractor has given me trouble with the electric dash/gauge cluster. I put a separate hour meter under the hood so I know the true hours. Someone could easily get fooled as the hour meter in the cab/dash only shows around 9500 hours. I have replaced it twice with used ones.
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Careful JD the ytdot is going to be all over that! SV will be along soon to review the rules!lol. It sure is hard to beat the 40 series deere, I have a 4840 that seems to just keep going.
 
That is incredible. That's more hours than I've ever heard on a tractor. Still looks like it's in nice shape to.
 
Kansas4010, That is not the only high houred tractor I own. My 1993 JD 6300 has 19,000 hours on it. It is a loader tractor too.
 
4520bw: I thought about that. Doubled 3/8 grade 70 chains are more than enough. I laugh my butt off watching these old fellows at tractors shows putting 4-8 chains on a JD B or Farmall C. Then they jump into their half ton pickup with that tractor on a bumper trailer. LOL
 
Dads D17 all is had over 30000 hours on it, yep overhauled twice and when he sold it, it needed the power director replaced. They don't build many like that anymore.
 
My 4250 was a mixer wagon tractor at its last farm with some discbine duty on occasion. I've had it for a few years now and although not pretty it has served pretty well. Around 11,500 hours on it.
 

"Doubled 3/8 grade 70 chains are more than enough. I laugh my butt off watching these old fellows at tractors shows putting 4-8 chains on a JD B or Farmall C. Then they jump into their half ton pickup with that tractor on a bumper trailer."

So true.
 
4520bw: Nice JD 4230!!! I have a JD 4040 flat top fender tractor that would be about a twin to your JD 4230. It has only around 5600 hours on it. I am the second owner.
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My 4230 has over 13000 hours on it.
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Are you sure that's enough tractor for the harvester and wagon? :)

Maybe that was our problem- the neighbor usually used his JD MI, but then his was only a single-row unit...
 

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I have a 4250 I bought in 2002 with 2200 hours. It stays hooked to the baler in the summer and blade in winter. I would like a 4240.
 
That is quite a few hours With the electric hour meter they put on an hour per hour. On the 40 series tractors they only register an hour at pto speed so if the engine run slow it might take 3 hours to put on an hour. The dealer hear say when comparing an electric to machanical you can deduct 1/3 of the hours on an electrical to compare.
 
Hey 4520-I think you need a set of 38's on that Deere-it would level it out a little-nice tractor.---Tee
 
We have a customer with a 4440 they bought new. It had over 50,000 hours on it 2 years ago when he went through the complete machine, from front weights to 3pt hitch (bought engine kit and some other stuff from us). Spent better than $25,000, but said it was worth it as a new machine that size would have been 3-4 times that much, and wouldn't be "employee proof" with all the electronics, DEF, etc. on the new machines.
 
4 chains is good, chaining to the weight bracket not so much. Around the axle would be safer. That is my contribution to the YTDOT.
 
K Efective: A TMR wagon is a cattle feed mixer. TMR= Total Mixed Ration. The Jaylor wagon that this tractor usually has hooked to it weights 14,000 LBS. empty and the average ration size is over 25,000 LBS.

So any antique tractor would be a little small for the job.
 
That would of been nice when it was my sprayer tractor, now it's just my hay cutting tractor. When I overhauled it a few years back I stripped it down, repainted it and then had a fish fry to sucker my buddies over to help put the sheetmetal back on. Interesting side note,after the big flood of 08 I use it and my logoon pump to pump the water out at work along with a cat generator!( Cummins building)
 
They will hold up if driven right and taken care of. I agree the newer ones probably won't live as long although I have a customer with a 6400 on a tmr that has well over 30,000 hours on it. The engine was overhauled around 17,000 hours. Other than that just minor/maintenance repairs.
 
Think a "new" tractor will hold up for 25 years and 30K hours??? I think not with the computers on them.

Don't you think that at some point Deere will have an entire replacement computer and a whole new set of sensors for these modern tractors? With computers keeping everything operating just as it should,wouldn't you think that would make the mechanical parts last even longer? Just my opinion,but I would think that the new electronics that they'll install will make them even better than original. It'll be new technology and will bring them right up to the capability of the tractors that'll be being built when the transformation happens.
 
I doubt this, I think they will obsolete them and try to sell you a new tractor first. Which is sad. It's also what the law suit was about so after market can't do it. Maybe someone after market will find a way to do it.
 
There will be guys rebuilding the electronics and supplying after market parts for them . There are companies that rebuild Ecms and reprogram them for all kinds of equipment and trucks the big thing now Is rewriting the programs so the all the crippling emissions can be deleted from tractors and combines and heavy trucks and pickups
 
Maybe you haven't heard about the law suit jd just won that prevents that. It will be interesting to see how it goes in the future, but for now that is not allowed.
 
I don't think it'll be exclusive to Deere. In that I mean AGCO and CNHI will do it too,but the company will probably take them in and you'll be able to buy a "reman" tractor. They might not do it to yours at the dealership,but the companies will rebuild trade ins at their facilities like they do now with engines.
 
Thats one thing I'll never have to worry about,I have enough tractors and equipment to last me well past any years I'll be able to farm.Good time to stock up on old reliable,simple tractors
as they are cheap bought 3 within the last month.Probably for less than a pass thru at the JD dealership shop(LOL).
 
Picked up a 3020 power shift last fall for 2000$ . That?s less one service call on a new tractor of any brand I?m sure. Had to have Agco come look at the tractor at the dairy 2 years ago the bill was over a thousand dollars the guy was there for 15 minuets
 
I would imagine guys will still do it there?s a company on Facebook group of guys doing it now . I?m sure if they get caught it might not be to good
 
I think your right . I don?t think these tractors will just go away because of computer problems. Lots of guys have the know how to get around those issues and with the cost of a new tractor there will be some type of reman program available. Will these tractors ever be as easy or as trouble free as the ones from the 90s back probably not
 
Average of about 24 hours of run time every week, every single week of the year since 1994. I'm sure plenty of weeks or months it wasn't used at all, so you actually worked it more that 24hrs on the weeks you used it.

30,000 hours = 1250 days
30,000 hours = 178 weeks
30,000 hours = 41 months
30,000 hours = 3.4 years
 
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