I done it Went to the dark side

Bought a really for real John Deere! Lol. Needed a rotary hoe and came across this one cheap.





I know it's that ugly green, but the price was right. Seems in good shape and everything is loose and works fine. Probly have to buy a 4020 next, or at least a G. Lol.

All kidding aside, any advice for making it work to break up the crust? I've heard to just pull them as fast as you can, but I've never used one before. My brother had the newer type and used it a little and that's what he did. I am going to try adding some weight to it as it doesn't really get down into the corn rows.

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You just have to go out and try it.....if it's not breaking the crust, then add some weight. You dont have to go as fast as you can, a good 7 or 8 mph should be fine if the hoe is in good shape. If none of these work, then obviously you will need to get a JD tractor....lol!

Ben

That?s good, I think we all are diversified in some way ,I have a 4020 and a Farmall B and other implements that aren?t JD, but I do wish I had my JD G back that I sold years ago and my 67 MF 180.

Your done. Soon it will be a 4020 then a 4430 and more and more Deere equipment. I bought an IH chopper this week and now am thinking about an IH 51 wagon for behind it. I already have the 56 blower. Next I will want a 656 or 806(someone please stop me)LOL Tom

I am going to the dark side in the opposite direction as you Jon. I have had a Case S disc for a number of years, and this winter I picked up an FCA field cultivator. What color hitch pin do I need to hitch up to my 4020 and 730 Diesel??

There were two 61 wagons here many years ago on 140 gears. 56 blower is the best but if you want to shoot for rare then a 40 or 45 blower. JD is my primary brand but there is a number of IH and Oliver stuff I would not mind having. Someday.............hopefully.

Squirt some Case paint on it quick. No one will ever know!!!!--------------Loren

The farmer that I worked for said I only needed to know two things about a rotary hoe - drive fast and don't look back.

I never considered the hitch pin issue! I just used the official jd
one that came with it. You think it might be an issue? Maybe
excessive drawbar wear or some other serious problem?
Probly be up most of the night now worrying about the
damage done.

drive fast , one gear down from road gear and pull on that throttle

Ya , guess it be better to paint it before that green infection spreads

You won't be able to control that Case.
The GREEN will push you through the fields. LOL
I have JD, Case, Ford and Kubota on the place.
Like them all.
Richard in NW SC

With a doubt, the best piece of equipment on your farm.

No harm done! I always wanted a 4020 but wound up with a good Ford! And I only like Deere balers! Lol

In my 45 years on this earth I have never seen one used. I dug one out of a buddy's scrap pile to use the rotary things in making some yard art.

If it makes you feel good than rotary hoe away.
That's about the extent of it.

That?s what I was thinking .

Dad had one like that but 3 point mounted instead. Sold the 3pt mount to uncle for his and Dad bought a 400 model after that, I only ran the 400 model.

jon, i have the same 4 section deere hoe. pull it about 6 mph, it will dig pretty good. the shovels are pretty aggressive. if you need to add a couple cement blocks to each section and strap em down. i have an old ih 4 section, but it has straight spikes and doesnt dig as well. when you pull it you should be kickin dust and throwing dirt. if you need less agressive, pull it backward. another useit reseeding grass seed. i pull both hoes one behind the other. load grass seed in the whirly spreader and broadcast it, then hit it a couple times with the hoe to get it in the ground,.

I have a two section set of those JD rotary hoes,split them up made one 3pt one a pull type.Use them to cover seed after I broadcast the seed in deer plots before running
the cultipacker can pull it with a garden tractor or compact.

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Just keep driving forward.



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Cannot see condition of wheels but you will probably be sorry you bought it. Unless the wheels are like brand new it is usueless. The teeth need a good curve at the end and That is called a spoon in that curve the side of each tooth should have a edge of about a quarter of an inch sticking out and that is what does the job of looseing the soil. That curvethe tip of it should be in about a 9:30-10:00 position on a lock face with the rest of the tooth at the 12:00 position. A lot don't realize they should have that curve. That spoon is what will pull the tooth into the ground. If it is wore down it will get to a straight spike and if you can pile enough weight on to get them to penetrate it still will not crack the crust. Because that spoon is what does the cracking. Problen is so bad that years ago when they were popular replacement spoons were avaible from a aftermarket company to weld on so they would work again. Don't know if those spoons are still made or not but if it is like 99% of the hoes out there it will need them before it is worth draging across the field. I had one of them and got rid of it because of that problem. Got an IHC that teeth were not worn much and it was as bad as the Deere with the teeth wore out. If the spoones would still be avaible and they might be because all the newer still JD hoes have that same problem would not be much of a job with your welding skills. They came with a paper pattern to use to set those spoons correctly and if the teeth are too worn out like just about all are they would be too short to weld the spoon in correct position. There is more of a curve at tooth end than you think.Got rid of both the IHC AND JD because was not worth draging over the crusted ground. An angle iron tooth will do way better and that is what MH, Ferguson And Ford-Dearborn that developed from the Roderic lean hoe had And what I used at end of my farming. I would say if you paid anything more than what you could get for it you got took. If you try to use it put 200#+ per section on it. And the pin that holds the end wheel on likes to come out and you lose a wheel and have to go hunting for it befor it ends up in a tractor tire. Am not famluar with DC speeds but I dought and I think they have 4 speeds third is fast enough to do the job and fourth will be too fast for field. 5th gear inthe 2 cylinder JD's is hoe speed, the H & M Farmall 4th not fast enough to do the job, that is where they need the 9 speed unit that I have never seen one of them. And a VAC would have power to pull one if it would go fast enough in field.

Forgot to say the are multiple places to bolt axles to and moving in one direction increases penetration other lessens it. Forget witch is the setting for more. Still have the book someplace. And Jon one of these days I will send you my new address

Ah welcome to green ownership. Ive always wondered about those 1 color farms. If i had to pick, I guess my color would be rust.

I grew up with whatever we could afford. Our equipment ranges from 1949 D-2 cat and Allis WD to an assortment of little fords, Hand full of JD green, Case 580CK backhoe, IH 656 gasser hydro and My 4-150 White. I think every manufacture had a few good ideas along the way.. As far as hitch pins... just buy a TSC universal. now as far as hydraulic connections, that's a different discussion...