Ford 7000 constant PTO

Loganthefordy · Apr 3, 2021

So Ive got a ford 7000 utility that had constant PTO no matter the position of the shutoff lever. And at least at lower rpms you can grab the PTO and itll stop without a problem I havent tried and higher rpms but I would assume the same. Any ideas on whats wrong and how to fix it? Maybe misaligned forks? Something else? Thank you all so much for the help so far, couldnt got as far as I could restoring my grandpas tractor without your guys help. (Sorry if I have been really annoying and asking lots of questions) But thanks so much again!!!!!!!

Dopp Creek · Apr 3, 2021

Sounds like the brake band is broken, common for the age. It's either split between the transmission and reaf differential housing or I beleive you
can get there by removing the seat and top cover. I've always split the tractor but that's me.
To verify, with the tractor running and PTO disengaged, you can wedge a 2x4 against the drawbar and push it against the PTO shaft. If it stops, its
the PTO brake. If it doesn't stop, the PTO clutch is in need of repair.

DeltaRed · Apr 3, 2021

Do not ever grab a PTO shaft with your
hand! Especially with a glove. We saw a
video of that in high school where a
young man did such a thing. The man
ended up losing his arm because his
glove got caught and his arm was twisted
off. Used a chunk of two by four to stop
the PTO not your hand! Be safe!

flying belgian · Apr 3, 2021

And at least at lower rpms you can grab the PTO and itll stop without a problem I hope you are saying that figuratively. If you are saying that literally you should not own a
tractor. Not trying to sound like a smart azz But you are going to get hurt.

Loganthefordy · Apr 3, 2021

yes being an FFA memeber I am fully aware of the dangers of PTO. I had a neighbor who knew what he was doing when he grabbed it and I only did it after he did, but thanks for the help with what might be wrong

730virgil · Apr 3, 2021

why in heck would you grab a turning pto? good way to get hurt or DEAD!

Loganthefordy · Apr 3, 2021

and it doesnt matter where the lever is it will still stop, and not engage at all. Would that still mean the brake band?

DavidP,South Wales · Apr 4, 2021

No apologies for being blunt here! What a ridiculous and dangerous thing to do. ALWAYS use a piece of wood against it if you want to check it. Not so familiar with Fords but certainly a worn out brake band or brake pad.
DavidP, South Wales

Case Nutty 1660 · Apr 4, 2021

a complete rebuild is at hand split the tractor at the rear of the transmission to access the drive,, I highly recommend you buying the factory FORD service manual and following all steps,, do a through inspection of all parts, replace all sealing items, they work great when all parts are in correct specifications,, I have seen more than one need parts where sealing rings run on Ford units,, i also do a hyd pump flow test as low output can cause pto problems, you already have plenty about grabbing the shaft,, but I will add a 2x4 wedged against it is for sure a safer practice than doing it by hand,,

Loganthefordy · Apr 4, 2021

Ok thank you all for the hell, once again I was not the first one to grab the PTO and was well aware of the dangers of it, but thank you for the suggestions and help

Loganthefordy · Apr 4, 2021

(reply to post at 08:56:58 04/04/21)

*help

Carlmac 369 · Apr 4, 2021

Anyone dumb enough to grab a rotating PTO shaft should be kicked in the nuts.

Case Nutty 1660 · Apr 4, 2021

I meant no insult like some here do,, I was suggesting a better way to test them is all,, and I too have grabbed them before bare handed of course though, I forgot to add check out the oil feed lines and connections for leaks,, seen the feed pipes cracked, before also

Carlmac 369 · Apr 4, 2021

(quoted from post at 16:01:09 04/04/21) I meant no insult like some here do,, I was suggesting a better way to test them is all,, and I too have grabbed them before bare handed of course though, I forgot to add check out the oil feed lines and connections for leaks,, seen the feed pipes cracked, before also

It's not an insult, it's a fact.

Destroked 450 · Apr 4, 2021

Plenty voicing their opinion but very few actually helping
Most likely the pto brake bank is broke, if the tractor has load monitor your likely look at a split, if no load monitor you can access everything by removing the lift top
Id pull the lift top first

Loganthefordy · Apr 4, 2021

Ok thank you for the help, (finnaly) and yes its a load monitor so I would have to split it to get to the brake band?

showcrop · Apr 4, 2021

Logan, welcome to YT! It is really not as bad as it looks. While many posters here read all of the replies to the OP before they post there are many who read only the initial post, (if they even read it all) and go right to posting their response, not knowing what others have already posted.

Destroked 450 · Apr 4, 2021

Id pull the lift top first to see how things look, dont know if the band can be replaced or not with out splitting but load monitor prevents the pto clutch pack from being removed until the rear is split from the trans

Case Nutty 1660 · Apr 5, 2021

thanks for the advise on the top cover,, every one I have done of the bigger Fords have always had cabs on them so i just split and roll the rear away to do repairs,, I forget many areas have open station units,,

sotxbill · Apr 5, 2021

Since your saying it will stop no matter where the lever is....

Then... do you have dual power option?
You need to check the low pressure circuit out of the hyd pump by adding a tee... it could be.... worn out pump, bad line from pump to lever valve, or worn or bad clutch pack... pressure testing should show more than 120 pounds... around 160 is perfect iirc. test with it off and then on.. if it drops when on, the clutch pack is leaking badly and will require a split to repair if you have load monitor. Dual power feeds off the same low pressure pump circuit so, it also could drop pressure and make the pto fail. sometimes the little "hose/pipe" going from the pump, to the lever, will fail and not sending pressure to the pto clutch pack. get a manual.. good luck.

DoubleO7 · Apr 5, 2021

(quoted from post at 20:54:29 04/04/21)

Logan, welcome to YT! It is really not as bad as it looks. While many posters here read all of the replies to the OP before they post there are many who read only the initial post, (if they even read it all) and go right to posting their response, not knowing what others have already posted.

EXACTLY!!
those that are repeating the same warnings over and over and over are doing so because the are reading your thread on Classic View.
An old archaic forum.
The responders click on your first post and quickly replay without reading any other responses.

If they would use Modern view of same forum, they would see your post and all of the subsequent responses. And thus maybe not repeat the same dire warnings.

Welcome to YT where old meets new and some just refuse to change.

J.Wondergem · Apr 5, 2021

All that does, is drive people away.

Loganthefordy · Apr 6, 2021

I have a load monitor and figured I would take the seat off and take a peek before any splitting since it is nice and painted and clear coated, but thanks for the help so far

Loganthefordy · Apr 6, 2021

Could anyone tell me where to look for a detailed service manual for this? since I have the least clue about tearing into clutch packs and such I have only seen a couple of youtube videos on it. Thanks!

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