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jd2cyl1943
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- Bemidji, MN
looks like a early Farmall maybe a F-12
jd2cyl1943
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- Bemidji, MN
I'm a John Deere guy so I don't know much about IH.
Pete in Holland MI
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Yup. F-20. Not sure about the engine transplant, but that appears to be a narrow rear end. Someone will really want that.
Crazy Horse
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My dad was a Chevette owner many times over, he swore by those cars and their engines of course, and as rough as he was on them, he couldn't break them. His driving caused me and my wife more than a few heart flutters .... all in his Chevettes .... ha!
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
Orange one is an Allis Chalmers B,flagship of the fleet
used red MN
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So these guys threw F20 at you 5 times, maybe by Jr
JD throwing Farmall in there you could surmise it is an
IH Farmall F20. In case you did not know that, a quick
search with ..F20 tractor.. would have gotten you the
answer. Here is a link to the info on one in the beloved
Tractordata.com. You can find info about most any
tractor there if you know the brand and model. If you
have patience and some time you can even ID a tractor
by running through the photos there.
Farmall F20 overview
JD throwing Farmall in there you could surmise it is an
IH Farmall F20. In case you did not know that, a quick
search with ..F20 tractor.. would have gotten you the
answer. Here is a link to the info on one in the beloved
Tractordata.com. You can find info about most any
tractor there if you know the brand and model. If you
have patience and some time you can even ID a tractor
by running through the photos there.
Farmall F20 overview
Jaden
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- Location
- Eastern Nebraska
The Farmall F-20 and F-30 were great for engine transplants because of the straight frame rails and open transmission connection. My Dad sold one to a guy that put a 383 Olds engine in it. He said he could disc at 11 mph, but the fuel consumption was terrible.
redforlife
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Appears to me to be a later model F-20.
Looks like they put the gas tank on flipped
around, back to front. Not sure what thier
reasoning was to do that. Gives me
something to talk about, I guess. Since
there is no longer a hood, I guess it
really don't make any difference.
Kind of wonder what they did for a
radiator. What ever they had rigged up for
that, is now gone. Lower radiator hose on
the original radiator, was on the opposite
side. Front of engine appears to be to far
forward to have used the original radiator.
The frame hole straight down from the front
of the alternator, I'm thinking is the
original radiator mounting hole.
Looks like they put the gas tank on flipped
around, back to front. Not sure what thier
reasoning was to do that. Gives me
something to talk about, I guess. Since
there is no longer a hood, I guess it
really don't make any difference.
Kind of wonder what they did for a
radiator. What ever they had rigged up for
that, is now gone. Lower radiator hose on
the original radiator, was on the opposite
side. Front of engine appears to be to far
forward to have used the original radiator.
The frame hole straight down from the front
of the alternator, I'm thinking is the
original radiator mounting hole.
Adrian Billheimer
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Please get a couple more pics of that crane on the F-20, that's neat.
caterpillar guy
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Now that the subject has come up the frame rails look a bit spindly for an F-20 more like on an F12. Just my take on it. I suppose they could have just put 12 frame rails on to a 20 for lighter use or ease of use.
Thanks guys, I'm learning more about these old girls. There are a couple of other tractors similar to this one, four actually, one with what looks like a chevy straight six in it, and a couple with iron wheels.
I won't be back to the property until the weekend, I'll try to get some more pics of that crane, looks hand powered. Here's the back of it.
Going in with a propane torch this weekend to see if I can get the B into neutral
Some more shots of the inventory
I won't be back to the property until the weekend, I'll try to get some more pics of that crane, looks hand powered. Here's the back of it.
Going in with a propane torch this weekend to see if I can get the B into neutral
Some more shots of the inventory
redforlife
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The F-20 frame rails have been striped down from thier bracketing. The brackets on the front for a mounted cultivator and the front steering cable brakes are gone. There is also a flat iron lip type bracket for the steering cable about mid-way that is gone. These can be just simply taken off. The frame rail looks kind of naked without these items.
But you are right about the F-12s and 14s having lighter duty frame rails. F-20s had heavy rectangular tubing for frame rails. I'm thinking the 12s and 14s had something that looked more like channel iron for frame rails, rather than tubing.
Original poster, posted some additional pics. One of them being an F-12 or 14. You can see the difference (kind of). Can't really see the front of the frame rail in the picture he posted.
But you are right about the F-12s and 14s having lighter duty frame rails. F-20s had heavy rectangular tubing for frame rails. I'm thinking the 12s and 14s had something that looked more like channel iron for frame rails, rather than tubing.
Original poster, posted some additional pics. One of them being an F-12 or 14. You can see the difference (kind of). Can't really see the front of the frame rail in the picture he posted.
redforlife
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Third picture is what's left of an F-12 or
14.
Fourth picture is what's left of a framall
regular (predecessor to the F-20). The
tractor to the left of it, looks like a
regular as well (just looking at the
steering wheel). Same steering wheel, and
original to the regular. Easier way to tell
a regular, is the open steering gears.
Regulars had a hollow steering wheel with
an open gap in the front. F-20s had a solid
steering wheel with a groove in the front
(later ones might of had a rubber steering
wheel).
The crane looking attachment, looks like a
homemade boom with some sort of a winch on
it. My guess would be, that the frame work
for the boom is actually the nose frame out
of something. Perhaps an old road grader.
14.
Fourth picture is what's left of a framall
regular (predecessor to the F-20). The
tractor to the left of it, looks like a
regular as well (just looking at the
steering wheel). Same steering wheel, and
original to the regular. Easier way to tell
a regular, is the open steering gears.
Regulars had a hollow steering wheel with
an open gap in the front. F-20s had a solid
steering wheel with a groove in the front
(later ones might of had a rubber steering
wheel).
The crane looking attachment, looks like a
homemade boom with some sort of a winch on
it. My guess would be, that the frame work
for the boom is actually the nose frame out
of something. Perhaps an old road grader.
Lord only knows, maybe they used it to install Chevette motors. The family that owned the property were dirt track racers on week ends and factory workers by day. They didn't throw much away.
I'm going to go vin looking next weekend, pretty sure at least 3 of them are open steering. If anybody sees something they need, or a priceless unicorn sing out. I have a deal going on used tires and wheels
Also a 39-47 Dodge truck with a Buick Nailhead motor
redforlife
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It'd be good if alot of this stuff was sold
for parts. And not just hauled to the
closest place buying scrap.
Not sure what all is sitting around there
with steel wheels. But those would for sure
be worth more than scrap. Somebody would be
interested in those.
It'd be good if this stuff was liquidated
to other salvage yards. The country side is
running out of alot of the older stuff for
parts. Its been being emptied out for
years. We'll see a day, someday, when old
parts tractors are hard to come by, and
used parts are hard to find.
I know everything can't be saved from being
scrapped. But it's probably also sad that
some stuff actually gets melted, and the
parts be worth so much more to the right
person.
Just because a tractor is sitting there in-
complete, partially parted out, or altered,
doesn't mean there isn't still some good
parts sitting there.
for parts. And not just hauled to the
closest place buying scrap.
Not sure what all is sitting around there
with steel wheels. But those would for sure
be worth more than scrap. Somebody would be
interested in those.
It'd be good if this stuff was liquidated
to other salvage yards. The country side is
running out of alot of the older stuff for
parts. Its been being emptied out for
years. We'll see a day, someday, when old
parts tractors are hard to come by, and
used parts are hard to find.
I know everything can't be saved from being
scrapped. But it's probably also sad that
some stuff actually gets melted, and the
parts be worth so much more to the right
person.
Just because a tractor is sitting there in-
complete, partially parted out, or altered,
doesn't mean there isn't still some good
parts sitting there.
jd2cyl1943
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- Bemidji, MN
Agreed.
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