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Absent Minded Farmer
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They are steel wheel cut-offs.
Never understood how they didn't twist up or break under a heavy load.
Mike
Never understood how they didn't twist up or break under a heavy load.
Mike
Janicholson
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The staggered layout of the spokes at the hub makes triangles out to the rim. Common in wire spoked wheels as well on bicycles motorcycles and cars. Wire spokes don't even have compression ability just tension. but they work. Also the horse power of an H or M is not comparable to a 1456. Jim
Absent Minded Farmer
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Thanks, I see it now. The spokes are making a tall tetrahedron. That's neat. Hadn't thought of that before.
Mike
Mike
redforlife
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Steel wheels were available from factory for the entire run of production. If you see the variation, it doesn't have to be from the war years. Although, ... most of the war year tractors came out on steel.
5th gear was blocked out at factory for the steel wheel option. But, ... it could be unblocked by simply taking a certain bolt out of the platform and putting a shorter bolt in. Or adding a bunch of washers to the long bolt.
Some early H's were on steel (before the war). Not uncommon to see those. They had a bit different style wheel center. The waffle portion was stamped rather than poured. The waffle portion being noticeably thinner. And the axle clamps were real similar to F-12 (no half moon block). These style wheels are not uncommon to see. And all of which were before the war. I believe the wheel style change was before the U.S. entered the war.
5th gear was blocked out at factory for the steel wheel option. But, ... it could be unblocked by simply taking a certain bolt out of the platform and putting a shorter bolt in. Or adding a bunch of washers to the long bolt.
Some early H's were on steel (before the war). Not uncommon to see those. They had a bit different style wheel center. The waffle portion was stamped rather than poured. The waffle portion being noticeably thinner. And the axle clamps were real similar to F-12 (no half moon block). These style wheels are not uncommon to see. And all of which were before the war. I believe the wheel style change was before the U.S. entered the war.
Absent Minded Farmer
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Do you know if those steel wheels were IH or F&H?
Mike
Mike
casecollectorsc
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Got a set like that on a 43 SC Case.
redforlife
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To my knowledge, F&H didn't make a waffled center wheel for IHC. They made wheels for IHC, but not waffled center ones.
I'm basing this off of going back to the F-series. IHC wheels were waffle centered. F&H made wheels were not. And then making the assumption that waffle centered wheels for the letter series were likewise made by IHC.
I have an early set of H rear steel. But not the later heavier style like shown here as cut offs. I believe that change was made by IHC and early on (like 40, 41), and not a difference between who made them.
I'm thinking IHC made all of thier centers for the letter series. Could be wrong, but thinking not. But farming out some of the rims, now that could be, and was likely.
I'm basing this off of going back to the F-series. IHC wheels were waffle centered. F&H made wheels were not. And then making the assumption that waffle centered wheels for the letter series were likewise made by IHC.
I have an early set of H rear steel. But not the later heavier style like shown here as cut offs. I believe that change was made by IHC and early on (like 40, 41), and not a difference between who made them.
I'm thinking IHC made all of thier centers for the letter series. Could be wrong, but thinking not. But farming out some of the rims, now that could be, and was likely.
rustred
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If u are referring to the rear wheels on this tractor , they are. Cut down steel wheels. U can see the flat spokes welded to the rim. French and Hecht wheels have round spokes and they are riveted to the rim from the inside. This is definitely not F&H rims. Plus every tractor , implements , combines had F&H rims , they were supplied to everyone.
redforlife
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F&H made some flat spokes. Maybe not for an H, but they certainly did for F-20 (IHC), and WC (Alice Chalmers). They of course didn't have the waffle center, and had a center much like, if not the same as, the center they used for the round spokes they made.
I'd post pictures, but don't know how, and not going through that headache today.
I'd post pictures, but don't know how, and not going through that headache today.
redforlife
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Someday, I'll see if can figure out posting pictures, and put some up for ya.
I got 2 sets of rear wheels. Flat spokes made by F&H. Even stamped F&H.
You can probably look at various tractor photos on the net. Like on an F-20. If they are flat spoke and not waffle centers, they are likely F&H.
I got 2 sets of rear wheels. Flat spokes made by F&H. Even stamped F&H.
You can probably look at various tractor photos on the net. Like on an F-20. If they are flat spoke and not waffle centers, they are likely F&H.
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