JX 75 engine blew up - any known problems?

I have a Case/IH JX75 with 398 hours on it, I bought it new three years ago, and have just used it for snowblowing, mowing, and some light field work/food plot work. Last week I was doing some digging, using it fairly hard, when it started running rough. I thought it was a fuel problem, changed filters, still running rough so had the dealer come pick it up. They're telling me that 'the balancer' flew apart, parts all over, brass filings in the rollers - and they want to replace the engine to the tune of $11,000 for a new engine or $5000 for a remanufactured engine - plus $2000 labor!!!

Any know problems with the JX series engines??!

If the tractor is only 3 years old, and only 398 hours, I'd hope that Case-IH would stand for most of the repair bill.

Theres a lot of Iveco 3.9's out there and I have not heard of them having a real problem. Was the governor letting it overrev?

Amen to that. With tough times for all makers of equipment I would think that the Manf. would foot most of the bill too. I know of 2 instances where Ford Motor comp. replaced a transmission in their car right after the warranty was up. $1500 bill was reduced to $300 in parts to keep the customer happy, that was 1 the other was IH diesel issue.

Howdy,

You might be surprised on the warranty side of things. I would definitely do lots of complaining with the dealer you bought it from. That tends to work at the dealership where I work (I"m in the parts dept). If customers complain a bunch, the guys are taken care of. I know, it"s not the best way but it seems to get a lot of guys what they want here. I don"t think the warranty on those machines is much over 2 years though to be honest. CaseIH is not the best on warranty stuff. Even if your dealer does do warranty work on it, they will be the ones to eat the cost and not CaseIH. We had a brand new JX1100U that the hydraulics went out on. Took forever and lots of test parts replaced before the mechanic finally found a spot in one housing with a missing plug that was left out at the factory. The tractor was torn almost completely apart at one point. CaseIH only covered about 1/4 of parts and labor on it. We had to twist our rep"s arm almost completely off just to get that. Hope your problem gets fixed. Honestly, I after working here I would never buy a small red tractor new. Junk is all they are. God bless.

--old fashioned farmer

Not a ringing endorsement on the small Case IH tractors!!! Talked to them at noon, they're still tearing it down, they want to look at the pistons and sleeves and valves, maybe they will be able to rebuild it at a cheaper cost vrs going with a remanufactured engine. They did show me a pan with the metal shavings in it, some of them an inch long and 1/4 inch in diameter. They did talk about 'making it right with me' but we will see.

Not that I could tell. Even with the cab its been a loud tractor, and I was working it hard.

Sorry to here that your CASEIH=Ford JUNK DID IT AGAIN.All the new Stuff made and sold by these Companys are just JUNK .This is why we dont want any more of there Stuff on our Farm,It Just All Falls Apart.

You said your were using it hard. What does that mean? Use or abuse? I'll assume you were just using it and not abusing it.

Warranty or not, that just should not happen in 398 hrs assuming you followed the recommended maintenance on the machine.(It's hard to see why you had that kind of a failure regardless of whether the recommended maintenance was done!) The manufacturer ought to stand up for it. There was defect in the failed part or the governor failed and you oversped the part. That should not happen in 398 hrs.

Based on some of my exprience, dealers get a bad rap because they are the face of the manufacturer to the end user and have to tell the cutomer the bad news. Most of the time there is a problem with the manufacturer not paying the true cost of warranty repairs. The manuafacturers will only allow so many hours for a repair without regard to how long the repair actually takes. Manufacturers normally pay at a rate that is less then the standard shop rate. The dealer ends up tying to make it right so the customer will come back. It's not a perfect world and when there is a manufacturing defect the warranty is generally is the first form of remedy. If that's expired, then good will is what's left. Most manufacturers, especially the Asians, are colder than a mother-in-law's heart if the warrantee has expired, regardless of a faulty design on their part. No warrantee left and you are on your own even if you were 0.1 hr over the operating time warrantee or the day past the end of warrantee date.

Be persisitent,(but not obnoxious)as one of the other posters said and complain about a major failure on a piece of equipment that was designed to workm that failed at just 398 hours. Wear 'em down! And remember "Non illegitimus carborundus!"("don't let the b*****ds wear you down!")

Yes the turk tractors are not really quiet. Neighbour has the same tractor only with 100 hours.

By 'using it hard' I meant that I was digging with a 7 foot chisel plow over a hill, I dug it twice in two directions. On the uphill pull it was pulling hard but it was able to handle it without lugging - I shifted it down. Abuse? You tell me.

This will be one of those days where you hope you didn't jew every last cent out of the deal when you bought the tractor...
We were in the same situation with a Ford when it was about 2 months out of warranty. In that case she only spun a main, but it didn't hurt the crank or anything else.
They did the work (dealer). We basically bought the parts. I think at the time it was somewhere around a grand to fix it...
We also had a situation with a Cat not long after that. Transmission broke a planetary. That was a 10K job of which Cat (dealer) covered 50%... or basically we bought the parts and they ate the labor. That machine was 8 years old at the time and WELL outside it's warranty, but they knew very well that there was no excuse for the failure. As a matter of principle, and good customer service, they looked after it in a situation, where, by rights, they had no responsibility for it whatsoever.

So.... I'd approach your dealer in a similar manner. I think if you urge them to repair it in house you stand a better chance of getting more consideration on it, especially if things aren't too brisk in the shop at the moment (mabey not this time of year)... but it's probably easier for them to eat a bunch of paper on the shop time then it is to put out cash for a new or reman engine. In the end it will depend on how repairable the engine is and what actually went wrong with it. Might also be that the turd just can't be polished, and a new engine is the best solution too...

Personally I've never been a fan of the Fiat based tractors that they're selling today, though there's no reason for an Iveco engine to have failed like that, even if you lugged the hole of it for every one of those hours. There wa a defect of some type there. Hopefully they can figure out what it was....

The only thing you can depend on right now with that tractor is that the mafia is not going to spring for the repairs. That I can assure you.

Rod

Sounds like normal farm work to me.