Stuck for 62 years

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An email came to me about a Russian/German tank pulled from a lake. Will try to post part of it here. It may not work but I will try to send it email to anyone who tells me to or am open to suggestions on how to dispense.(There are about a dozen photos that appear not to attach here.)

WWII Russian tank found with German markings after 62 years
WW II Buffs will find this interesting...Even after 62 years (and a little tinkering); they were able to fire up the Diesel Engine!

WWII Tank Found After 62 Years.

A Komatsu D375A-2 pulled an abandoned tank from its archival tomb under the bottom of a lake nearJohvi, Estonia. The Soviet-built T34/76A tank had been resting at the bottom of the lake for 56 years. According to its specifications, it's a 27-tonne machine with a top speed of 53km/h.

>From February to September 1944, heavy battles were fought in the narrow, 50 km-wide, Narva front in the north-eastern part of Estonia. Over 100,000 men were killed and 300,000 men were wounded there. During battles in the summer of 1944,the tank was captured from the Soviet army and used by the German army (This is the reason that there are German markings painted on the tank's exterior. On 19 September 1944, German troops began an organized retreat along the Narva front. It is suspected that the tank was then purposefully driven into the lake, abandoning it when its captors left the area.

At that time, a local boy walking by the lake Kurtna Matasjarv noticed tank tracks leading into the lake, but not coming out anywhere For two months he saw air bubbles emerging from the lake. This gave him reason to believe that there must be an armoured vehicle at the lake's bottom A few years ago; he told the story to the leader of the local war history club 'Otsing'. Together with other club members, Mr. Igor Shedunov initiated diving expeditions to the bottom of the lake about a year ago. At the depth of 7 metres they discovered the tank resting under a 3-metre layer of peat.

Enthusiasts from the club, under Mr Shedunov's leadership, decided to pull the tank out. In September 2000 they turned to Mr Aleksander Borovkov the manager of the Narva open pit of the stock company AS Eesti Polevkivi, to rent the company's Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer. Currently used at the pit, the Komatsu dozer was manufactured in 1995, and has 19,000 operating hours without major repairs.

The pulling operation began at 09:00 and was concluded at 15:00, with several technical breaks. The weight of the tank, combined with the travel incline, made a pulling operation that required significant muscle. The D375A-2 handled the operation with power and style. The weight of the fully armed tank was around 30 tons, so the active force required to retrieve it was similar. A main requirement for the 68-ton dozer was to have enough weight to prevent shoe-slip while moving up the hill.

After the tank surfaced, it turned out to be a trophy tank that had been captured by the German army in the course of the battle at Sinimaed (Blue Hills) about six weeks before it was sunk in the lake. Altogether, 116 shells were found on board. Remarkably, the tank was in Good Condition, with NO RUST, and ALL SYSTEMS (except the engine) in working condition. This is a very rare machine, especially considering that it fought both on the Russian and the German sides. Plans are under way to fully restore the tank. It will be displayed at a war history museum that will be founded at the Gorodenko village on the left bank of the River Narv.
 
I saw a show on telvision about the recovery of the tank. It was rather interesting. It showded the tractor also. Stan
 
(quoted from post at 12:22:53 12/03/09) An email came to me about a Russian/German tank pulled from a lake. Will try to post part of it here. It may not work but I will try to send it email to anyone who tells me to or am open to suggestions on how to dispense.(There are about a dozen photos that appear not to attach here.)

WWII Russian tank found with German markings after 62 years
WW II Buffs will find this interesting...Even after 62 years (and a little tinkering); they were able to fire up the Diesel Engine!

WWII Tank Found After 62 Years.

A Komatsu D375A-2 pulled an abandoned tank from its archival tomb under the bottom of a lake nearJohvi, Estonia. The Soviet-built T34/76A tank had been resting at the bottom of the lake for 56 years. According to its specifications, it's a 27-tonne machine with a top speed of 53km/h.

>From February to September 1944, heavy battles were fought in the narrow, 50 km-wide, Narva front in the north-eastern part of Estonia. Over 100,000 men were killed and 300,000 men were wounded there. During battles in the summer of 1944,the tank was captured from the Soviet army and used by the German army (This is the reason that there are German markings painted on the tank's exterior. On 19 September 1944, German troops began an organized retreat along the Narva front. It is suspected that the tank was then purposefully driven into the lake, abandoning it when its captors left the area.

At that time, a local boy walking by the lake Kurtna Matasjarv noticed tank tracks leading into the lake, but not coming out anywhere For two months he saw air bubbles emerging from the lake. This gave him reason to believe that there must be an armoured vehicle at the lake's bottom A few years ago; he told the story to the leader of the local war history club 'Otsing'. Together with other club members, Mr. Igor Shedunov initiated diving expeditions to the bottom of the lake about a year ago. At the depth of 7 metres they discovered the tank resting under a 3-metre layer of peat.

Enthusiasts from the club, under Mr Shedunov's leadership, decided to pull the tank out. In September 2000 they turned to Mr Aleksander Borovkov the manager of the Narva open pit of the stock company AS Eesti Polevkivi, to rent the company's Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer. Currently used at the pit, the Komatsu dozer was manufactured in 1995, and has 19,000 operating hours without major repairs.

The pulling operation began at 09:00 and was concluded at 15:00, with several technical breaks. The weight of the tank, combined with the travel incline, made a pulling operation that required significant muscle. The D375A-2 handled the operation with power and style. The weight of the fully armed tank was around 30 tons, so the active force required to retrieve it was similar. A main requirement for the 68-ton dozer was to have enough weight to prevent shoe-slip while moving up the hill.

After the tank surfaced, it turned out to be a trophy tank that had been captured by the German army in the course of the battle at Sinimaed (Blue Hills) about six weeks before it was sunk in the lake. Altogether, 116 shells were found on board. Remarkably, the tank was in Good Condition, with NO RUST, and ALL SYSTEMS (except the engine) in working condition. This is a very rare machine, especially considering that it fought both on the Russian and the German sides. Plans are under way to fully restore the tank. It will be displayed at a war history museum that will be founded at the Gorodenko village on the left bank of the River Narv.

Why not simply post the link?

http://www.vincelewis.net/t34.html
 
I think this is a video of the tank you were talking about. Amazing that sitting at the bottom of a swamp under pete that it would come out that clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhK1eXDAfgQ.
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That was something, absolutely amazing the condition of it, that peat bog sure is one way to store your old equipment, sheesh, better than a barn, though I bet they had to prepare and work fast to get it done once out of the water.
 
The preservative action is something chemical to do with the peat; there were several old bodies dug out of peat bogs fairly recently, looking like they"d been tanned.
North Africa was another front where each side salvaged and used the others equipment, at least with the Brits and Rommels people; made recognition dicey at times. I can"t recall anything about US units doing so, at least not officially.
 
I saw this video several years ago. I don't know if it was on here or if someone sent me an email. We tested those Russian tanks back in the 1960's. Hal
 
Before their economy went south in the 90's, the Japanese were the biggest buyers of fir timber from the Pacific Northwest, in volumes far greater than current needs. They sunk it in swamps to preserve it (not sure if peat or not, but I suspect it was). I presume there's still a bunch of it lying in the mud, waiting to be used.
 
That video was on here a year or so ago. I thought I read that they got the engine going without too much hassle but maybe not. The Komatsu dozer pulled it out like it was a car. Dave
 
If you take a drive through the Sinai peninsula on the east bank of the Suez Canal, you'll find hundreds of tanks left over from the '73 war. Both the Israelis and Egyptians lost many tanks during the brief war.
 
Ya know, I sorta remember that, isn't when the price of plywood, by the thousand, took it's first leap upward in price, say mid 80's ? GP & Weyerhauser were obviously doing a lot of business overseas, I used to pick up quite a bit of material from the local GP warehouse and recall the spike in price, like you could have bought a bunch of this material, sat on it and make some good profit, well as long as construction was doing well LOL !
 
Yeah, and they were pretty cagey- invented the "blitzkreig buy"- would wait until price went down (mainly because they'd stopped buying), then call ALL the suppliers simultaneously- made huge buys from everybody at once, at the "old" price- next day, of course the price skyrocketed, but it didn't hurt them because they'd already made their deals yesterday. Then wait for awhile, and do it again.
 

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