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Collapsed Machine Shed in Upstate NY

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steve terplak

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Noticed this shed on the way in to work yesterday, it always held a lot of tillage equipt, an A/C and occasionally a neighbors small NH...we have gotten alot of heavy snow out this way recently as JAyNY can attest to.
For those familiar with the area - amsterdam area, NY - this is on Denise Rd. near the intersection with Ft. Hunter Rd and Snooks Corners Rd.
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Steve I think I know excatly were that is! Is there a big brick house, with a plastic white fence around it? and a red metal building in back? going up Denise rd on the right? I use to mow the lawn at that place 17 years ago.
 
you are thinking of the right place...continue down denise another 1/2 mile and this place is on the left...almost at the end...
seeing it woke me out of my 6:30 am funk.
 
Ok, I know were you mean, a friend of mine also lives almost on the top of the hill on that road. He built a horse barn, and has a silo that he made into a obsertivorty(spelling), I think your saying going down the other side, toward the NYS thruway. J
 
On another note that hoe is brand-spankin-new. They don't get much cleaner than that. When I was on pipe crew we got a new 350D that was in that paint scheme. Nice smooth slick machine when/if you could get it to run. Otherwise just $450,000 worth of junk. There was no liner in the fuel tank, so the little bits of rust plugged the fuel filters in two weeks or less. Dealership replaced the tank and still had the same problem. They didn't know what to do. Anyway hopefully some form of insurance will come through for him on the equipment.
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I can't figure why anybody lets that happen. No excuse unless the owner is out-of-state and had nobody to check on roof loads. Or, disabled and broke with nobody to help out? I hope insurance isn't covering all these types of failures, becasue it just raises the rates of others who take some precautions.

I tend to build all my new buildings with 120 pound load-capacity (twice the code requirement). But even so, when we're supposed to get a lot of snow, or I'm away somewhere, I stick a few support poles up, inside my buildings, just as added insurance.

Heavy snow is no secret around here. And if someone owns a building with inadequate rafters, that's no secret either.

The people I DO feel sorry for, are the ones that hire contractors, build everything to minimum code, and then get a surprise collapse. Some people seem to think that adhering to minimum code mades them safe - which is rediculous.

Last year some city people decided to go into the "indoor horse arena" business. They had a huge barn and stable complex built. It was completed in Novemeber and came crashing down in January. All built to minimum code.
 
We have over fifty collapsed roofs so far in my county alone in NW Iowa. The heavy snow got the first ones, then freezing rain hit us and a few more went down.

When I left for vacation I stopped by my friends house to see the damage to his Oliver collection from a collapsed roof. A crew had the roof mostly removed but he had smashed fenders, hoods and steering wheels. One was an immaculate big old Hart Paar. The building was built to the snow load in our part of the country, but this has been an exceptional winter for us. Jim
 
A few years ago, we had heavy snow in this area. A neighbor was cleaning off his shed roof when he slipped & fell off the roof, breaking some bones. He said after this I will let the insurance take care of it.
 
Where I live we get lots of ice storms.In 2006-2007 we had 3 major storms which took down numerous sheds.Most found out too late that their insurance didnt cover roof collapse.

Theres really not alot you can do about an ice storm.Its not even safe to get up there and if you do,it has to be all chopped up to get it off.I did that in 2007 on a shed with a fairly flat roof.We had over 1" of ice and they were calling for up to a foot of snow.I knew the shed was close to the breaking point and couldnt handle the snow.
 
If you cannot get on top, you can always stick in some temporary braces inside to give support. I've done it many times.
 
Where do you brace inside a 80 to 100Ft.,20FT.to square clear span building?I haven't seen pictures of your buildings meeting those kind of specs.It would take a lot of 22-25Ft.long material and plating to make it work,plus then the building would almost be unusable in the winter.I will agree on the Min.building,but some of the majors will tell you if you want over code,FIND another builder.
 
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