J DE Cart Before the horse.

Lou from Wi.

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Well Jde. WERE BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! Need your expertise on a MF 2200 tractor backhoe. Said to be in Rough shape. Pictures look like it ,to be the fact. Guy wants A minimal price Below $2,000.00.
As you know us. were a babe in the woods(where the big bad wolfs live)and have little or no knowledge of such things, but were needing something to do the footings, stump removal,drain & power lines etc, around the homestead. We could rent one but what we discovered is the cost is $250.00 per day plus extra for trailer .Now that would be more costly then if we got this and did minimal repair to have it going strong. Don't want to get into the repair like we did with the O.C.46 or the I.H.706. We do need the building to go up in the spring. BIG DELIMA . If we go for it. How difficult is parts to find, repair etc.
Sure do appreciate you wandering back into our jungle of questions. But WE KNOW YOU KNOW.
REGARDS.LOU & VICTOR. Ps/Victor is going to be the head mechanic.lol (TRUTH) .
 
Lou, I know nothing about the MF2200. I've had several MF 202 Workbulls and hated them. Everything about them was odd-ball with little parts sharing with the MF35 farm tractors.

If the MF2200 shares parts with similar farm tractors, it might be a good deal. If not ??

If the backhoe has a single round "drum" swing cylinder, I'd pass on it. Drum cylinders are weak, leak prone, and near impossible to fix. That's not just a MF thing. AC, Deere, etc. used them on a few hoes.

Whenever I have to seach for used hoes, the most common that I find in the "cheap" and "rugged" category, are usually Case 530CKs or 580CKs, IH 3434s, and Fords. Deere too, but Deere hoes tend to be pricey unless they are 1010s and 2010s.

How far are you from the Wisconsin/Michigan border? I ask because I have a hoe in storage in northern Michigan and I have no use for it. Just the hoe, not tractor. It came off a 900 Ford in Wisconsin. I was going to mount it on my Deere crawler - but then found a good deal on an IH 3414 loader-hoe.
 
I would not go with it. The MF 2200s where and OK machine but there where not many of them. Parts are not the easiest to find. As jdemaris stated I would pass. The easiest to find parts for are the Case hoes. There where many more of them built in the older hoes. I like the controls on the newer JD hoes better but they bring more more and you just need to dig. The 530 was the first really good hoe. The JD hoes in the early sixties used that wiper swing motor. It would not swing a full bucket up hill new. The 530CKs can be bought for $3000-5000. You can get later 580s for around $10000 in a 2wd. If you don"t plan on keeping the hoe long term than buy a better hoe and then just resale it later. If you do that then buy a better later model hoe as it will be able to resale easier.

Here is a link to a 1975 Case 580B that has been rebuilt for $10500.
Case 580B Loader backhoe
 
Morning LOU, I have a MF 2200 hoe myself, its a very usefull and strong little tractor, I'm not sure if it was available but mine does not have shuttle shift F-R therefore the tractor itself is simple and tough, with that said it IS somewhat pricey to repair although I haven't run into anything I couldn't get. It does have the drum type swing apparatus that others have mentioned and yes they are not trouble free. I bought mine to do kind of the same thing you are for $700 or $800 and ended up putting a couple thousand in it before I could use it reliably. But it has more than paid for itself as I've used and am still using it quite frequently. It has one of the most powerful hoes I've ever used for an old small tractor but I did replace the pump and pump drive prior to useing it. So I guess my answer is if the swing drum is not leaking (and if the bushings are worn it will be) and the hydraulics are in working order, the rest of the machine is just a common tractor so you can kind of base your decision on that.
 
Jde. Thanks for the reply. Going to take your advice and PASS PASS PASS. Guess We will wait and look for the models you posted ,then if we find one,will try and go look at it before we buy. We are quite a ways from the Michigan line, clear across Wisconsin in the N.W corner,close to Duluth. Truly appreciate the offer !!!!!!!. Thanks Again John. Happy New Year to all of you guys. Say HI to LOUIS for me. Warmest Regards LOU & VICTOR.
 
By the way, I mis-typed. My IH hoes are 3414s.

For a small rugged hoe with greats parts-support, I don't think you can beat an older Ford, early 60s. I've got a 1963 4000 Industrial and it's a work-horse. Parts are common and cheap. 172 engine, Sherman over-under trans, etc. To be fair, it's a basically a beefed up, low-sitting farm tractor with a backhoe and loader stuck on it. Nice and low and gets into tight places. Around 1965, the series changed from a US format to a sort-of British format. Still good tractors though. So, my 63 4000 has a four cylinder engine. But a 65 4000 has a completely different trans and a three-cylinder engine.

The IH 3414 is basically an industrial version of the B-414 farm tractor. Very rugged machine and often around fairly cheap. Parts support not as good as a Ford, Case, or Deere though. It's a British-based machine and new industrial parts now come from Komatsu.

Case was the first US company to sell a dedicated wheeled backhoe. Caae 530CK or 580CK are very rugged machines. I'm not crazy about the torque-converter drive in the 580CK though.
 
Thanks Fullthrottle,
We were kinda worried about price for parts and availability,plus we really won't use it all that much,but figure for the cost of renting,traveling time and then have to get it back on time or extra cost to that.We really appreciate your information on this, but will keep looking.Thanks again.
LOU & Victor
 
Thanks JD seller,
We appreciate your input.
We will keep looking, like we said, we don't want to tie a bunch of $$ up on a machine that will get very little use,but when we need it,we need it. Renting one here would be costly,so if we can find a small cheap( emphasis on cheap) we would get it.Tired of a long handled shovel,and our building is important for storage of our equipment we already have.Footings and trenches for wiring and drains would be the most right now, later maybe dig a few stumps out.
Thanks again for your ideas.
Regards,LOU & Victor
 
Thanks JD,
Mistype or not, We really appreciate you taking the time to answer.
We been looking for anything cheap enough,and close enough, from ditch witches to mini excavators to tractor backhoes.So far out of our reach,can't see paying that much for something used for so little.We will keep looking for those you listed,we Have it printed out,(memory deprivation for both me and Victor) for further ferreting of the elusive cheap digger.LOL.Thanks again JDE,
Regards,
LOU
 
In my area, and in northern Michigan, $3000 seems to be the magic number for a beat-up, but running and useable wheeled backhoe/loader.

I've come across many for $1500, but you'd have to stick another $2000-$3000 into them just to be barely useable.

A few years ago, I bought a Deere 300B diesel loader-hoe for $3200 which was a steal. But I took a chance and bought it without even getting to try it first. I got very lucky. Has all new tires and it seems, a newly rebuilt engine.

I needed a wheeled backhoe in northern Michigan and could not find anything in my price-range. So, I searched in southern Michigan and got my IH 3414 in running condition, for $3000. But it cost me another $500 to get it trucked up north.
 
Lou: Another option would be a good three point back hoe. If you have a good 50-60 hp tractor with three point you could get by cheaper. I had a Bush Hog 765 for many years. I only got rid of it when my brother bought a new JD 410 Back hoe. I had very good luck with mine. I think the key is getting the pto pump with the hoe. You don"t have to run the tractor real fast and still have good flow. It sounds like you are not going to be doing any real hard digging. I installed water lines 4-5 foot deep with no problems. I liked the fact that you don"t have another power unit to keep up.

Here is a link to a 2005 Bush Hog 765 three point hoe with pump. It looks like new. This hoe is rated to dig 7 1/2 feet. That is straight down with not much reach but they do real well in the 3-6 foot range.
2005 Bush Hog 3 pt back hoe
 

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