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need another 5 gallon gas jug, everything I find has some complicated kinda valve on top

govt must have outlawed the simple reliable ones, are these EPA contraptions any good??
 
Just went through that. Virtually all the plastic cans have the 'safety' valve installed and I have yet to see one that worked anywhere as good as the rubber hose with the plug.

To get a decent can with a working valve you need to get a type 1 or 2 can. They are metal and the only ones I saw retail were in Tractor Supply for about $40.00

The type 2 is more elaborate and costs upwards of 1
$100.00 and I only found them in MSC and Grainger.

We get to pay through the nose so some azzhat politician can claim he saved lives.

Brad
 
A PIA to use you can still find some older types. For me yard/antique sales were "my friend"
 
Until I took the time to read the directions on the side of the can, it didn't work for me either. After that, much easier. I don't spill as much with the new can. My 2C.
 
(quoted from post at 20:14:14 03/21/11) A PIA to use you can still find some older types. For me yard/antique sales were "my friend"
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f you have any old cans, better lock 'em up...be stolen right off your truck.
 
I'm back to using the pop out valve lids on 5 gallon buckets, and a big funnel. You can drill and tap the plastic lid for a 5/16 cap screw for a vent. I usually take ten of them up to Canada, fill at the border with gas/oil mix for 7 days fishing.

Gordo
 
They're great, wonderful for the environment, they won't work half the time and I can't reach my pumps because of the super long spout. So I ended up spilling a bunch and causing massive pollution. Then I finally got tired of it so I just ripped out the valve part.
 
The valves usually leak. I spill more gas out of the valve than i spilled with the old cans with a simple tube. And they pour so slow, glug ... trickle ... glug ... trickle.
 
I tossed the safety valve contraption and use a short length of old bicycle inner tube.
It must be the small one to fit tightly around the neck.
Looks awful but works.
 
I've seen them but so far am fortunate enough to not have to purchase/use one.

Is this the 'land of the free' or have we become 'the home of the hen-pecked'?

Christopher
 
All these new cans for sale today are nothing but a POS. I look for old gas cans at auction or garage sales. The only way a new can works is buy takeing off the whole nozzle and pouring out of the can into a funnel. I also drill holes in the top of the can for a vent. EPA CRAP IS ALL IT IS. Remindes my of emmissions inspections here in NY, My 84 chevy truck has 2 gas tanks, guy opens the fuel door flap and looks at it, I said what are you looking at, he says you need a gas cap on the filler neck, which I had, no more rag stuffed in the neck. I said ok, but the left tank is leaking gas as it rusted a hole threw it, he said I dont care about that!
Nothing but a joke.
 
I bought a steel one, very similar to one that I had in the eighties that has a handle on top that you both lift and open the spring loaded lid with. you pull on it with your hand instead of your thumb, so it works far easier than the new ones. There is a plastic funnel that slips tightly over the opening. I also bought a second funnel to go on the one from the seventies that is STILL GOOD!! I just went and took a look at it. It is made by Eagle Mfg. in WV. Model UI50FS-type1. I paid triple what I paid for one of the new type, but the way the first one has lasted I am obviously ahead of the game. Also it says right on the can to write for replacement parts. Buy American!!!
 
Isent that called a "Safty Can" They are also a POS, there not a pouring can just a transporting can, they have no vent either. I also dont see whats so safe about them, just that metal lid to keep them closed? Its NY law we have to use them in a commercial company, I just use the rubbermaid older square plastic cans.
 
out west,colo, we still have some of the old 5-gal plastic gas cans WITH VENT CAPS. i have 5-5gals FOR tractors/5-2gals for lawn mower and boat, chain saw leaf blower 2-cycle. i'll keep looking at yard sales, c-list for more, a buck ot two, can't go wrong. never know when someone i like needs one. i'm also with everyone else about the EPA.
 
I took the guts out of the spout, and punched a hole where the vent normally goes with a galvanized 16D nail...then use it as a plug, pull it out when emptying the can. Works well.
 
I got a Briggs & Straton one a few years ago, the best thing since toilet paper. I have not been able to find one since. It was rather spendy, but just great to use.

I have tried numerous other ones, and some one should be shot for their stupidity designing them. They will not let you rest the weight of the can on the spout when pouring.

All of them will be slow when pouring.
 
I have modified several. Simply drill the correct size hole for a tubless tire valve stim. The biggest obstacle is getting the stim into the hole from inside the can. You can remove the valve and use the cap for sealing. :)
 
(quoted from post at 20:11:30 03/21/11) I have modified several. Simply drill the correct size hole for a tubless tire valve stim. The biggest obstacle is getting the stim into the hole from inside the can. You can remove the valve and use the cap for sealing. :)
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Is the rubber valve stem and the gas compatable with each other?
I was wondering if the rubber might deteriorate after a while.

It would sure be easier having a vent on a 5 gal can while putting fuel in the tractor tank.

Without a vent it takes forever for it to drain out while it glugs & sputters. Not to mention maybe having to hold it all that time.
 
(quoted from post at 04:42:36 03/22/11)
(quoted from post at 20:11:30 03/21/11) I have modified several. Simply drill the correct size hole for a tubless tire valve stim. The biggest obstacle is getting the stim into the hole from inside the can. You can remove the valve and use the cap for sealing. :)
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Is the rubber valve stem and the gas compatable with each other?
I was wondering if the rubber might deteriorate after a while.

It would sure be easier having a vent on a 5 gal can while putting fuel in the tractor tank.

Without a vent it takes forever for it to drain out while it glugs & sputters. Not to mention maybe having to hold it all that time.
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I am sure none of the valve stims I used were compatable with gas, but I have not had a problem.
I found the simplest way to install the stim is with a piece of wire stuck into the can and out the filler hole. Stim can then be fastened to the wire and just pull to the hole. I thought I would try the regular rubber stims and if there was a problem replace them with metal ones.:wink:
 
Anyone seen drive-in bucket vents? I found them some years ago in the Shoup catalog, but couldn't find them online just now. They drove in to the lid of a 5-gal. bucket and had a cap that popped off & on. That may be another solution for these worthless gas jugs.
 
An old milker inflation works fine on old cans that have a nozzle that wont fit the little inlets on later cars.
 
I've got 5 - 5 gallon plastic pesticide cans that I use for diesel fuel. I've had them for around 25 years, and they're still going strong! Have to use a big funnel with them! I have a couple of those fuel funnels with the screen and tabs for the fill neck on the tractors. Total investment is the 2 funnels.
 
Mine works GREAT as I said above. It pours easily and quickly through its attached funnel. I got the new one specifically in case my wife needs to use the generator and I am away.
 
I have one of those NO VENT wonders. The First thing I did was to take my knife and cut the lock lever from the spout hole nut. I then at the back where there SHOULD BE a vent, I drilled and tapped a 1/8 inch pipe thread hole to install a 1/8 inch drain cock. The plastic is thick enough to do this. If you are filling a small tank you as less likely to over fill by leaving the drain/vent cock closed. If I want to pore a bunch of fuel or the whole 5 gallons I can open the drain/vent cock.

Kent
 
My cans are old but I don't pour, I use a plastic kerosene pump. I set the can on the tractor and squeese the bulb a couple of times and it siphons a five gallon can in about 2 minutes.
 
im down to these usleaa types now, some gov'mt idiot doesnt understand that to get the gas out, you got to get the air in, had my last 3 old gas cans swiped from my place not long ago, naturaly they were full too, might as well drill and tap for a valve or tire valve, the cans are almost usless without them, about like trying to pour gas into a lawn mower using a old boat gas tank, you know the metal ones with the filler hole in the middle of the tank lol
 
Boys, these new cans have NOTHING to do with safety or the EPA.

These cans are all about containing the VAPOR. That stuff's harmful to the environment, you know.

They were mandated in California by CARB, and spread like a disease to the rest of the country.

You can still get the old-fashioned straight-spout cans in Canada.
 
(quoted from post at 20:00:47 03/21/11) need another 5 gallon gas jug, everything I find has some complicated kinda valve on top

govt must have outlawed the simple reliable ones, are these [b:e3e351df3b]EPA [/b:e3e351df3b]contraptions any [b:e3e351df3b]good[/b:e3e351df3b]??
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"EPA" and "good" in the same sentence? :lol: Isn't it amazing that we, the American public, have to modify/re-engineer a BRAND NEW PRODUCT after we buy it to make it work right?

Best be careful and don't brag about what you've done either. Some do-gooder neighbor might just report you to the ECO-nazis and you'll have a SWAT team on your front doorstep.

I've given up on the spouts. I just use a funnel. I'm tempted to recycle my empty 5-gal hydraulic cans as fuel cans like I used to do with the metal ones years ago but don't think the flimsy plastic snout will hold up like the metal ones did.
 
I get motor oil, hydraulic oil, etc. in 2 1/2 gallon plastic jugs at the farm store, then use the jugs as fuel cans. No vent needed- just have one of those steel funnels that attaches to the fuel tank like a gas cap, and turn the jug on its side- it will vent enough air right from the start. Rest the side of the jug on the funnel, and you won't spill a drop. And as I get along in years, the 2.5 gallons are sure easier to hoist up there than the 5's. I've had some of those jugs for 20 years, I think- just keep them out of the sun.
 
we've used milker inflations for years. Work great and are flexible. Need to get a couple more from my dairy friends. THe old Surge belly-milker ones work better than some of the newer styles.
 
I have several of the old plastic gas cans that are not any good because of broken spouts.

The spouts were prone to break after a couple years or so. They were the white accordian style and you could find them anywhere for $1.

Of course, now the spouts aren't sold and the replaceable spouts for the newer cans won't fit. The threads are purposely mismatched so the new spouts won't fit the older cans.
 
Here you can still buy the regular Wedco cans at Wal-mart. Specter only sells the EPA crap. They don"t leak though and will not spill or release smell in a van or car. So if you want a bit of extra gas with ya, they"re good for that.
 
Search for the "No-Spill" brand of gas cans on amazon. Supposedly these are the ONLY ones that are CARB-approved that work and don't leak.

$35 + shipping on a 5 gallon can... I'm glad I'm set for gas cans for a while.
 
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