Re: what's the real reason????

Posted by Billy NY on January 25, 2014 at 05:26:03 from (72.226.79.200):

In Reply to: Re: what's the real reason???? posted by Ultradog MN on January 24, 2014 at 19:11:02:

Funny you say that. Here in NY we have done that hundreds of thousands of people have signed a petition, twice now I believe, opposing and calling for the safe act to be repealed. There is no doubt that the tragic event in CT, and our diligent higher political office seeking elected ignorant governor, who only represents certain people, not those who are law abiding citizens, whom pay taxes like everyone else, is responsible for causing the panic and subsequent hoard. All knowingly, he knew this up front, how could you not, when considering the effects of such laws at the drafting stage. We've had several town hall meetings with a senator that opposes and seeks the repeal of the law which is an infringement of the 2nd amendment of the U.S. constitution. Its going to the supreme court, not sure how it will fare, but as you suggest, use the system, well we are on the threshold right now, lets just see if the system works and reflects the proper representation of the citizens that vehemently oppose this new law. The tinder and vast amount of fuel was already in place, all it took was some scrawny little deranged person, to act, he did, government uses that for leverage, dictates to the citizens, restricts, impedes or otherwise conflicts with the 2nd amendment to the U.S. constitution, people panic, and what was once a normal, (define normal?) situation, becomes panic, same as when bad weather is predicted, shelves are empty, happens every time. Governor took advantage of that scenario, it rides the coat tails of these laws, he also took advantage and misrepresented a whole bunch of decent citizens.

You'll never eradicate evil people, its a curse and an embedded complexity of the human race. However, with applied leadership, in areas where its needed the most, like firearm education, safety training, the youth in our society would highly benefit, its plainly evident that while firearms are sensationalized on one side, on the other its gone the way of the standard transmission, kids are not properly educated at an age they should be about firearms. Leadership would also apply means and methods to mitigate, prevent and intimidate anyone considering targeting a school or other vulnerable public place, we do not have any effective leadership. Whether it takes trained professionals or whatever tactic, we have to eliminate the potential targets of these people, educate them, steer potential "Lanza" types from acting, its people not guns. I suppose with the advance of society and increase in population, the frequency of that kind of evil also increases in proportion, that is the immediate threat, gun control has no effect on this. So now we have a serious dilemma and in our state, all the darned governor talks about is factions of the opposing or other main party, conservative moderate this or that, and how they can't find their identity, way too much politics, in our case this person needs to be voted out this year, that is about the only option people have using the system, if it does not happen, we have long hard times ahead when it comes to being able to get some lousy .22 ammunition to mitigate varmints and nuisance animals around ones farm or home, forget target practice or recreation, thats all done for now.

Way back when, the government funded and supplied JROTC/ROTC, adolescent teens were trained by military instructors about weapons, marksmanship and all the rest, this was a good program and it trained young people ahead of time, prior to active duty or other military service, I experienced 4 years of it myself. At age 14, I was training with M16 A1's 203 grenade launcher, M60 and the 1911 .45 by an active duty U.S. Army Ranger, live and practice fire, as well as all the other training, it was offered at our school and coordinated with the national guard armory nearby. Best education on firearms you could get at that age. We displayed these weapons on open house days/nights, there are photos in the yearbooks, it was part of the school and the education. Anyone of us could have gone rogue, used or sourced live ammunition when not at the range, and mind you we did get some nice range time at West Point, did that twice. No longer allowed I look back at our school, that was real training by demonstrated leaders in our military, our first instructor completed several tours in Vietnam, wounded, so was our 2nd instructor, another was an active duty drill sergeant, thats what the youth needs today, leadership. These guys would PT you until you wanted to quit, all across the board all the training was building men, like the motto of our school, which was just boys, (of course now both men and women, gender really don't matter, both should be able to experience this early education and training) This system was beneficial, and it was funded by a government that was supported by the people.
They don't allow this kind of training anymore, and we are getting real soft on things like this, which should not be.

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