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SuperA-Tx

02-23-2007 11:43:25




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On a Super A, Oil Pan Bolts

It lists four bolts that are 1 1/2 inches long and fourteen that are 7/8 inches long.

Where do the 1 1/2 inch ones go?




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Fromjb2

02-24-2007 10:14:06




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to SuperA-Tx, 02-23-2007 11:43:25  
Hi, you guys are bring back found memories of chewing tobacco, pipe smoking and electric fences.
Here is my favourite pipe smoking story. Happened to a friend of mines brother-inlaw. He was baling oat straw with a thrower and wagon behind. Baler thru a loose bale, so next time around the field he was lighting his pipe just as the loose bale was on his left so tossed the burning match into the loose bale. He continued baling then he noticed the smoke behind him. A gust of wind had carried a piece of the burning bale into the next windrow and the fire followed the windrows round and round the field until only the center part was left where no corners had been raked.

JimB

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SuperA-Tx

02-23-2007 15:57:14




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to SuperA-Tx, 02-23-2007 11:43:25  
Thanks guys. Figured it out and just waiting on the seal to get here.

Sticking that nail in the holes kind of wore me out. I think Ill take the rest of the night off.



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Tom Windsor

02-23-2007 14:58:46




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to SuperA-Tx, 02-23-2007 11:43:25  
The long ones will not work in the short holes... but the short ones will work in the long holes...so as is suggested, make sure you identify the deeper holes first..

TW



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billde

02-23-2007 12:06:04




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to SuperA-Tx, 02-23-2007 11:43:25  
As Jim says, front and rear mains.



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Janicholson

02-23-2007 11:54:24




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to SuperA-Tx, 02-23-2007 11:43:25  
To the best of my rememberance, they are adjacent to the main bearings fronr and rear.
To check for sure, stick a wire up there. JimN



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Hugh MacKay

02-23-2007 11:54:17




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to SuperA-Tx, 02-23-2007 11:43:25  
Randy: I've forgotten but you can stick a match or small punch up the holes, you'll find the right ones for the long bolt.



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SuperA-Tx

02-23-2007 15:53:26




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-23-2007 11:54:17  
Hugh,

Sometimes I wonder why I pay you the BIG BUCKS. For the good advise I guess?

Yep, no match but a nail works too. You got the line of three holes in the front and back of the pan and the long ones go on the outside ones.

Got back from the Massey Ferguson place where we had the front end loader being worked on. Because the Mexicans kept useing it when two little bushings were wore out it will cost an extra $600 to get new rods for the bucket cause the seals wont seal. They dont care tho it aint their money.

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Hugh MacKay

02-23-2007 17:05:18




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to SuperA-Tx, 02-23-2007 15:53:26  
Randy: I'm probably a long way out of date, I'm an old pipe smoker, and user of wooden matches. Dad was one before me, and between us we wore a hole in the Farmall 300 pan seat from scratching matches on the left hip side of seat. You probably remember those old wooden matches, one could light up his pipe making 5 mph, in a 20 mph headwind on an open station tractor.

I used wooden matches or the pipe to measure everything. Over the years there has been more fun poked at my pipe, and attempted tricks on me. Got out of truck one day, leaving 3 teenage farm workers to wait. Those industrious young lads emptied the pipe, filled it 3/4 with dead house flies, then put the pipe material back on top. The unsuspecting me came back to truck, started the engine, grabed my pipe, and immediately remembering it was burned out, thumped out the contents on the outside rear view mirror. As I did that a roar of laughter came out of one of the young lads. " I told you guys you should have put back fresh tobacco, and casually said we filled your pipe as we didn't want to drive all over road while he filled his pipe".

I carried those matches loose in my side trousers pocket. Had numerous in pocket fires over the years, even got 2nd degree burns once. I was under rear hitch and bale chamber of baler installing a new needle. Lying on my side and the bottom side pocket caught fire I couldn't get out quick, man did that burn a hole in my thigh. I didn't get a lot of sympathy at out patients either.

I was famous for using my pipe as a pointer. One day at a welding shop I was pointing out cracks in front end loader arms I wanted repaired. Finally the welding shop owner asked me how much cow manure I consumed in a year? I looked at him rather puzzled. He said, You've stuck the stem of that pipe in cow manure 6 times, putting the pipe back in your mouth each time. I doubt if it hurt me, that's the reason those Missouri guys are always on my case, they cant understand where I got my good complection. hahaha.

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Harold Hubbard

02-23-2007 18:56:56




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-23-2007 17:05:18  
My dad used to carry those matches in his pocket too. One day he was raking, and some of them caught fire like that. He yanked them out of his pocket onto the ground and of course it set the hay afire. When he jumped off the rake to stomp out the fire the horse decided to get out of there. Mother was standing at the sink and looking out the kitchen window when the horse and rake came across the field, knocked over a pile of lumber, and disappeared behind the barn. She ran out, sure that Dad must be dead, however as soon as the door was open she could hear that he wasn't. She said years later that she didn't know Dad had that big a vocabulary. The horse had gone dead center through the gate between the ice-house and the milk-house and never touched either with the rake. He was found standing peacefully under the barn, waiting to be unharnessed and turned out to pasture. Mother thought he was real close to being turned into dog food instead.

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Hugh MacKay

02-24-2007 02:14:47




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to Harold Hubbard, 02-23-2007 18:56:56  
Harold: Horses don't like fire very much, they also don't like hornets. My dad was mowing one day, cutting a back swath along the railroad fence, as he raised the cutter bar it cut through some weeds and small bushes near the fence. It also cut into and knocked down a basket ball size hornets nest leaving it in two pieces. The hornets swarmed on the horses, they took of before dad could get the old mower out of gear. The old McCormick mower was just about worn out, dad said he expected to see grears flying any min. on his journey. It stayed together but it finished the mower. He bought a new Cub tractor and C-22 mower before the next year.

When I was a kid there were 3 steam powered saw mills within 2 miles of each other. One of the mill owners was also a farmer, and every haying season he'd shut the mill down for two weeks, and all hands went haying. One particular year they were short a horse at the farm to use on the dump rake. Back to the mill and got a 22 year old horse that had never been away from the mill yard since he was a colt. He had always worked a small wagon gathering up small orders of lumber, etc. Out on the farm the horse worked well until the 5 pm whistle blew at the neighboring mill. The horse went to the barn with rake and driver and stood there until they gave up and put him in for the night and fed him. Some of the workers declared, the horse just had a better union than they did

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Paul Shuler

02-23-2007 17:21:53




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-23-2007 17:05:18  
My dad was a pipe smoker as long as I could remember. Back in 1986 his older brother {my uncle Henry} got lung cancer and died. My dad carried his pipe in his shirt pocket for two more years but I never saw him smoke it again. He never did throw it away. On a side note my uncle Henry was a crack shot. As a kid I remember people coming from all around to watch him put on a shooting display. Many times as a kid I saw him get a limit of quail with an open sight .22 rifle. He was a great story teller also. As a kid I thought he was ten feet tall. Sorry to ramble on but all the pipe talk caused a flood of old thoughts to come rushing back.
Paul

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SuperA-Tx

02-23-2007 18:05:49




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to Paul Shuler, 02-23-2007 17:21:53  
Paul, Hugh...

My Father owned my old Super A but it was my Uncles that gave me the most memories when it came to tractor stuff cept the time my father told me how to lay off a straight row.

Uncle Roy rolled his smokes from Prince Albert. Ya know, his shirt always had burns on his chest. He use to fill the flippo(?) lighter with gas. Dang, it sure made flames when he did too.

Uncle Lloyd use to chew Redman and had that can with the paper towls on his dash all the time. You talk about gooooo se.

This is EXACTLY why I work on the old tractor. I love the old memmories. I also do genealogy research. I think it all kind of fits in.

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Hugh MacKay

02-24-2007 03:36:02




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to SuperA-Tx, 02-23-2007 18:05:49  
Randy: Your Uncle chewing Red Man, reminded me of a story told to me by a friend. He was working on a farm in the 50s. In that area, all farmers spent the frozen winter months extracting fire wood, saw logs, etc from the farm wood lot. In the spring as the frost was going out, and yet too cold and wet for farming, they spend their days bucking and splitting the firewood. This farmer's daughter had gone off to the city and found herself and nice city job as well as a young man, a chartered accountant, a city boy. She had come to visit and introduce the new man in her life to her parents. This particular day the farmer and my friend were splitting wood. The new boy friend, wanting to impress his possible inlaws to be, asked for a splitting axe and joined in. About mid morning they stopped for coffee and a break. Stuart (the farmer) and Ralph (my friend) both took out their Red Man for a relaxing chew during the break. Carl (new boyfriend) inquisitive about chewing tobacco, wanted to try it. They cut off an extra large chew for him, and he proceeded chewing. A few min. later Carl asked Ralph, "what do I do with the juice". Ralph quietly responded in a low voice, "swallow it". By the gleam in Stuart's eye, Ralph knew Stuart had heard him. A short while later they had one of the sickest chartered accountants on their hands, seen in recent times, around those parts.

Carl did marry the daughter, but I'll bet he never chewed their tobacco again. He did go on to establish one of the best accounting firms in the area and was a true friend to farmers. I well remember he saved me $23,000. in taxes one year with the stroke of a pen. Believe me $23,000. was a lot of money in 1972. I asked Carl one time about his tobacco chewing experience. He said, " I should have known better, both Ralph and Stuart had a grin on their face, plus my wife to be had warned me what jokers they were".

Stuart farmed next door to the one room school I started school in. One day Stuart ran an electric fence along the school lot. I was about 11 year old at the time. We had this hateful 6 year old kid that had just started school. When the teacher let us out for recess, about 6 of us went out of line of teacher sight and behind woodshed, and proceeded to have a pee letting on we couldn't pee over the wire. Well, the hateful kid could do this, he'd just show us how it was done, you talk about the howling and bawling when the pee hit the wire. As I recall the 6 of us got quite a lecture from the teacher. The hateful kid was not near as hateful after that, but he did have a high pitched voice all his life.

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georgeky

02-24-2007 06:18:56




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-24-2007 03:36:02  
I have a friend that use to help me raise tobacco and one year while we were pulling tobacco plants he( a grown man mind you) walked over to the end of field we had tobacco beds sown in to relieve himself. I told him to be careful for the fence was bad so I had put up one strand of electric wire around the beds. He ask what would happen if he was to pee on that fence. I warned him that liquid and electric did not mix, but he ignored my warning, and proceeded to squirt that fence. You could here him squall over at the next farm. To this day (23 years later) he will not get within 50 feet of a electric fence.

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Hugh MacKay

02-24-2007 06:34:14




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to georgeky, 02-24-2007 06:18:56  
George: I always scratch my head in amazment every time I hear about some brave soul peeing on an electric fence. I always thought the shock one got from accidentially touching it with hands would be education enough for most. But to take that shock through a stream of water, unbelievable.



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farmallhal

02-24-2007 12:14:42




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-24-2007 06:34:14  
These stories are just priceless - Mastercard is for everything else. Could share a couple as well like the coon dog that raised his leg on a low electric fence one night while we were hunting as a young kid. You would have thought he treed a whole zoo full of coons by the time he got the pain rubbed off on the ground.



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Hugh MacKay

02-24-2007 15:06:38




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 Re: Oil Pan Bolts in reply to farmallhal, 02-24-2007 12:14:42  
Hal: I once had about a dozen gilts plus a boar running in an outdoor yard fenced with 3 strands of electric fence. A friend wanted to see these gilts, and we got there just at dusk. One of the gilts were in heat, however she was standing back to the fence and about 2' from it. The boar tried everything to get her to move, even physically rooting her side on. As we all know a sow or gilt in this condition will just freeze at any tuching, which she was doing. Alas he made the attempt, just got nicely entered when his hind quarters touched the electric fence. I have never seen anything move as fast in my life as that gilt did. They both lost interest rather quickly, I often wondered if they blamed each other.

Heard another, old farmer and his teenage farmhand were walking a sow along a gravel side road to a neighbors for boar service. The old man walking behind the sow and the young lad on traffic side and using cains used in directing hogs for show. As they passed the first farm driveway 3 young ladies were walking, the old gentlwman turned slightly and tipped his hat speaking to the young ladies. In the instant he took his eyes off the sow, she stopped, causing him to walk almost straddle the sows rump, she braced her feet. He turned to the young lad saying, "Hang it all, why did that have to happen in the presence of those young ladies". This happened in the 30s and the young lad told me, the old gentleman was so embarased he went that evening and appologized to the young ladies and their parrents.

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