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SMDTA problems - convert to gas only

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SonnyDay

03-24-2007 19:42:01




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I have this SMDTA tractor and I've had nothing but problems with the diesel motor. The mechanic told me that the pump was getting weak.

I've stuck enough money into this junk. Is it possible to use just the gas motor? I can't seem to find the throttle. I don't know if the gas motor needs an overhaul or what because it seems guttless. I have to pull the TA back to get it to move.

Would a bigger carb work or is the governer having screwed up?

Thanks for your help. Hugh Mckay or City-Boy (the rum bottle is getting low) any ideas.

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Roger Mills

03-24-2007 21:19:27




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to SonnyDay, 03-24-2007 19:42:01  
Sonny, it would seem that you have a rep for BS. These guys don't take to that very well and sometimes they get a little fired up. First, I will tell you that there is only one motor-it only starts on gas to warm it up so it can run on diesel without glow plugs etc. Second, I will tell you that IF you really have an SMDTA then cut through the BS and post pictures and the serial number and casting codes. Third, these tractors are not junk, its only people who don't know anything about them that think they are junk. Fourth, if you can't or won't post something that is real to prove you HAVE the tractor in the first place-then it is just BS and you should go get a kids pedal tractor and forget about the ones for grown ups and adults. And lastly, if you really have the tractor, email me and I will fly out there with cash and ship it home the same day--before you do manage to turn it into junk.

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Farm Doctor

03-24-2007 21:01:44




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to SonnyDay, 03-24-2007 19:42:01  
So i see the rat is back out of his sewer to collect more parts. So no more about your 54 Super H T/A diesel. I guess now it had a baby and this one is SMDTA. Let me guess you took the diesel motor out of your so called "SHTAD" and put in a straight M and knowing you, you probly went out there with a chisel and a hammer and put in some numbers on the Serial Tag ( By the way very noticable, It happened to me after purcased the tractor and pressure washed it to notice it) This rat needs some dcon to keep him off this web page. I agree with you but when you got robbed by him once that is more than enoght. Watch for the tractor being full of grease and oil, it is probly there to cover up some welds.

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City-Boy McCoy

03-25-2007 05:13:27




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to Farm Doctor, 03-24-2007 21:01:44  
Hey - Your IP address is the same as "SonnyDay"'s. He must be using your computer without your knowledge. HAW! mike



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georgeky

03-25-2007 06:48:49




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to City-Boy McCoy, 03-25-2007 05:13:27  
See it done it again all these replies but one has my original IP



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georgeky

03-25-2007 06:43:48




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to City-Boy McCoy, 03-25-2007 05:13:27  
Mike some time yesterday I noticed that someone else and myself replied to a post and we to had the same IP number this was the first time I had noticed that, but I remembered a thread a week or so back were some were discussing this. Last night I noticed mine was different than what it has been. What's going on?



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georgeky

03-24-2007 21:33:27




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to Farm Doctor, 03-24-2007 21:01:44  
Doc aint you heard about the knew Super CubDTA there is a waiting list onthe SuperHDTA and are in danger of running out of 350D to build them out of.



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Wardner

03-24-2007 20:31:37




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to SonnyDay, 03-24-2007 19:42:01  
Forget the carb. Put a nitrous system on and bleed some of that to a full coverage motorcycle helmet. When you switch to diesel, kill the nitrous and toggle on the propane. If none of that works, just get drunk but stay off the roads.



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gene bender

03-24-2007 20:23:42




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to SonnyDay, 03-24-2007 19:42:01  
Better sell it as they are in demand and let someone have it to restore it will bring 3-5000 the way it is.Restored sky is the limit one brought 48 some thous in PENN.



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Wardner

03-24-2007 22:25:20




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to gene bender, 03-24-2007 20:23:42  
I was there. It was a high crop SMTAD and it bought $45,000 even though it had paint runs on the fuel tank. Two other SMTAD's bought something like $13,000 and $17,000 in their work clothes. One had FH and the other 3pth.



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georgeky

03-24-2007 19:56:18




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to SonnyDay, 03-24-2007 19:42:01  
First of all motors won't run on gas or diesel, they run on electricity. How many engines does that tractor have. Aint you got nothing any better to do?



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CNKS

03-24-2007 19:54:47




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to SonnyDay, 03-24-2007 19:42:01  
It was not designed to run continually on gas, so the answer is no. You have, arguably, one of the most valuable IH letter series tractors made, worth $10-$20000 restored (a Super MDVTA is the most valuable) If you don't want it, you can probably get $3-$5000 as is, and then buy what you are happy with.



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georgeky

03-24-2007 19:57:58




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to CNKS, 03-24-2007 19:54:47  
CNKS, This is another dose of BULL.



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Farmallkid From Ont,

03-24-2007 20:29:06




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to georgeky, 03-24-2007 19:57:58  
Haven"t bin on here for awhile, but when i was on cnks give me some good advice, but i never seen you on here before, at least cnks give what he could to this post, and you done nothin but put people down, the mechanic in town got on me the same way about the motor\engine thing, it is a simple mistake made by most people, including peole who know there stuff. I just tell the mechanic to f off, and that fixed him from havin a bad attitude towards the subject. If ya don"t got helpful advice, or somethin nice to say dont write it, but if ya do please share your knowledge.

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georgeky

03-24-2007 20:41:59




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to Farmallkid From Ont,, 03-24-2007 20:29:06  
I see the farm doctor is back on the post above ask him about this guy.



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Andy Martin

03-24-2007 20:23:04




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to georgeky, 03-24-2007 19:57:58  
Well, George, you will soon go the way of Nat. Your attitude is atrocious and you don"t know much about old Farmall tractors.

To criticize someone"s use of the word "motor" to refer to engine is juvenile at best, we all use them interchangeably now and again, even companies.

I"ll just bet no one ever used "Motor Honey" in a motor and I never heard of "Engine Honey". Most motor boats don"t even have motors. And when referring to old Chevy V-8"s, motor was a pretty common term.

Lighten up and enjoy the wealth of information on this discussion board, you could learn a lot if you don"t already know it all, which it appears you don"t.

By the way, Nat2 is a lot nicer guy.

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Hugh MacKay

03-25-2007 04:01:07




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to Andy Martin, 03-24-2007 20:23:04  
Andy: Read a bit of history on Sonny, George is not the first person to become very annoyed by the actions of this guy. Sonny has a yard full of IH tractors with factory original options that no one else has ever heard tell of.



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georgeky

03-24-2007 20:35:04




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to Andy Martin, 03-24-2007 20:23:04  
I do know about Sonny Day or DEy which ever way he wants to spell it today. I to once took up for this clown, he is yanking your chain and trying to stir up trouble. You will see . You don't know me let along what I may or may not no about tractors. See how this works you are playing right to Sonny,s hand. Check the archives. He is making every bit of this up.



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Andy Martin

03-24-2007 20:43:24




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to georgeky, 03-24-2007 20:35:04  
I smelled a rat, but your response to CNKS is what got me going.

I did read some of your posts farther down and you seem reasonable, so maybe I was a bit stiff.

I have been busy and haven't posted here for quite some time.



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georgeky

03-24-2007 20:54:16




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to Andy Martin, 03-24-2007 20:43:24  
He post from time to time just to watch and see what happens. I assure you this is made up. Every once in a while he post about the rarest of farmalls and kicks back to see what happens. I defended him a couple of months ago the same way you are now and was made a fool. I am not the greatest source of knowledge, but I do know a little about farmall tractors. At least the 14 of them sitting in the yard,barn and over on the other farm. I don't just play with them I farm with them and have for almost 40 years.

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Andy Martin

03-24-2007 21:03:49




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to georgeky, 03-24-2007 20:54:16  
When I reread your post to CNKS I realized you were referring to the question, not CNKS response.

I farm a little with letter series Farmalls and have a few sitting around as well.

Of course he wouldn't make you a fool. All he could do was get a little enjoyment out of taunting an innocent guy. Once you get on to one of these guys they just change their name.

I do have a SMTA-D which is junk but I never post about it. Maybe some day it will find it's way into the shop.

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georgeky

03-24-2007 21:15:11




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to Andy Martin, 03-24-2007 21:03:49  
I have some junk to, but there is always hope of getting them fixed. I have 350 diesel tore down now and a 450D waiting in the shadows which is basicly the same as The superMDTA. I was just telling CNKS that Sonny was back, I believe he had forgotten about this guy. Did you notice he was directing his post to Hugh and Mike because they to know of his fictional make believe tractor problems. Check on page 3 or 4 for more thrills.

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CNKS

03-25-2007 17:02:56




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 Re: SMDTA problems - convert to gas only in reply to georgeky, 03-24-2007 21:15:11  
I hadn't forgotten, but haven't paid much attention to his posts, as I usually try not to get involved in that type of discussion. With all his other problems, I thought perhaps he might actually think it would run on gas, thus the brief answer. I remember back in the early 60's that the son of our IH dealer (in his 20's) was picking up my dad's WD6 for repair, and did not know it was supposed to be swithched to diesel -- stranger things have happened--

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