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6 volt regulator for cub

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jaw3254

04-30-2007 13:16:17




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I WENT TO NAPA AND BOUGHT A 6 VOLT REGULATOR TODAY MY PROBLEM IS MAY OLD REGULATOR ONLY HAS TWO WIRES GOING TO IT ONE FROM GENERATOR AND ONE FROM I THINK THE BATTERY AM I RIGHT? THE NEW REGULATOR VR850 HAS FOUR TERMINALS I THINK DOSE THE F OR FEILD TERMINAL NEED A WIRE CONECTED TO IT? ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED




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John T

04-30-2007 14:13:30




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 Re: 6 volt regulator for cub in reply to jaw3254, 04-30-2007 13:16:17  
If the old what you call "regulator" only had 2 terminals, its ONLY a Cutout Relay instead of a 3 or 4 terminal full fledged Voltage Regulator. On a Cutout Relay, the BAT terminal wires to the load (NOT battery/starter) side of the ammeter and its other (ARM/GEN) terminal wires to the ARM post on the Genny. On those systems the gennys Field was connected to the light switch ya know..... ...

Its possible to convert from the relay to a VR.

BAT on VR to load (NOT batery/starter) side of ammeter ARM/GEN on VR to gennys ARM post

FLD on VR to Gennys Field post. On a Cutout Relay system the gennys field used to wire to the light switch. Dont use that circuit, simply remove it and insread wire the gennys Field now to the FLD terminal on the VR.

(L)OAD terminal if its a 4 terminal VR (BAT FLD LOAD ARM) versus only a 3 (BAT ARM FLD) the 4th L terminal supplies hot batery voltage up to the Lights and Ignition (their BAT input terminals) which used to be fed off the ammeters Load terminal (same terminal that wires down to BAT on a VR or relay). If you have a 4 terminal VR with the extra 4 th L terminal, remove the wiring from the load side of the ammeter to lights and/or ignition switches BAT input terminal(s) and instead feed voltage up to the L BAT input terminal(s) from the VR's L terminal

POLARIZE the genny of course, and if its a 3 brush adjustable 3rd brush genny n youre converting over to a full fledged VR, I would set the 3rd adjustable brush to a high charge rate.

NOTE on many 4 terminal VR's the terminal off to one side or the bottom all by itself is the ARM terminal while teh 3 side by side are BAT FLD LOAD. if its only a 3 terminal VR the terminals are BAR ARM FLD

If I missed anything hopefully the other gents will add to this. The VR needs a good ground remember.

John T

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JAW3254

04-30-2007 14:59:04




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 Re: 6 volt regulator for cub in reply to John T, 04-30-2007 14:13:30  
THANKS FOR THE HELP BUT NAPA HAS ME REALLY CONFUSED I ORDERED VOTAGE REGULATOR VR850 IF I HAVE A CUT OUT RELAY WHICH IS DELCO 1116766 OR NAPA NUMBER VR850SP THEY SAY 850 AND 850SP ARE THE SAME BUT 30 DOLLARS DIFFERENT IN PRICE WHATS UP WITH THAT?



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K-Mo

04-30-2007 14:08:57




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 Re: 6 volt regulator for cub in reply to jaw3254, 04-30-2007 13:16:17  
Your old unit would be a "Cutout-Relay" not a regulator. The purpose of the Cutout Relay is to connect the generator to the battery while the engine is running and disconnect when the engine is not running. If your are having a charging problem, you can connect a jumper across the cutout relay with the engine running. If it charges with the jumper installed, the cutout relay is faulty. Other wise the problem is a bad generator or a problem in the field circuit. Connect a jumper from the generator field terminal to chassis ground. If it charges, your field circuit is faulty. The field circuit controls the generator output rate. The field circuit is a wire from the field terminal to the light switch. The light switch has two positions, "H" and "L" representing high and low charge rate. In the "L" position, a resistor mounted on the back of the light switch is placed in the circuit. On the light switch will will also find a second resistor coil. That's for dimming the head lights.
For a new cutout relay, try Delco 1116766.
K-Mo

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