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Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ?????

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Keith Stromberg

05-16-2007 14:25:07




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Finally getting a lot of the kinks out of the 140 that my fatherinlaw gave me. But today some how I bent what I call the draw bar or draw link. It runs down the left side of the tractor and connects to the rock shaft. Has a hook like on one end and a spring with nut on the other. The one on the tractor looks like it was made with the orignal ends welded to pump pipe. Were would I find one? Also the collar on the end of this same link bar ?? that connects to the rockshaf is way smaller than the hole on the bracket of the rock shaft. I saw were there is suppose to be a busching for it but its no longer avaiable thru IH. Can any one lead me in the right direction? I have looked all oner the web and ebay. But I am not sure what the correct name is also. And I do not find it in the manual I have.
Thanks to everyone for being so helpful to me hopefully one day I can return the favor.
Thanks,
Keith

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georgeky

05-17-2007 15:40:10




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to Keith Stromberg, 05-16-2007 14:25:07  
Keith, all I found were old HM cultivator rods.



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keith stromberg

05-17-2007 16:27:51




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to georgeky, 05-17-2007 15:40:10  
george, thanks for looking for me I really do thank you! I took the one that was bent to my Grandfather today and he is going to strighten it for me this afternoon.
While I was there we were looking thru all the farmall stuff he has and I found a one row planter among a lot other great things. He gave me the planter so were going to pull it out from the barn tommorow. He also has something I have never seen before. A grist (sp) meal that runs off the pto pulley on the tractor. Its also in good working condition. He said that he found it in the junck yard a few years ago. He has a SA Farmall that he bought the same year I was born (1968) used from the John Deere dealership that he worked for thrity plus years. Hopefully I can found some more nice things tommorow. I guess he has 10 or more sets of hillers. Like the grist meal he found about all of this stuff in a trash dump that the small town we live in used for many years. He said about all the farmers would throw all there so called old equipment away there. It makes you wonder just what all went to waste out there.

If any one could give me the measurments of the lift link I would be very gratful.
Thanks,
Keith

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keith stromberg

05-16-2007 20:36:15




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to Keith Stromberg, 05-16-2007 14:25:07  
Guys thanks so much for the information. You are right that someone had the ends from the orignal lift link. And they welded them to a .75" pipe. So what is the normal distance to keep the collar from the end? If any of you have one of the arm please let me know. I leave in South Carolina small town about a hour from Myrtle Beach.
On the end one of you said that there is two nuts, but this one only had one with the large spring in front of it. Also in front of the spring there is the collar that connects to the bracket on the rock shaft. Thats were I am saying that the bracket has a hole about a inch in diameter and the collar with the pin that goes thru the hole on the bracket is only about a half inch in diameter. Leaving a lot of play in it. On the parts diagram they show a busching but its no longer avaiable. If any of you like to email with any more info or parts my email is strombek@bellsouth.net I really do thank you all as I learn as I go with this tractor.
Keith

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Hugh MacKay

05-17-2007 02:00:56




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to keith stromberg, 05-16-2007 20:36:15  
Kieth: The part number for the lift link is 520 710 R91. The lift link trunion, being the part that lift link slides through at rear rochshaft is 520 066 R1. I have munufactured my own trunion for one of my tractors, I made the part the shaft slides through 8" long using heavy wall pipe.



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georgeky

05-16-2007 20:55:29




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to keith stromberg, 05-16-2007 20:36:15  
Being in South Carolina, there should be some of these in salvage yards, if there is one near you.



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Gene-AL

05-16-2007 18:03:24




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to Keith Stromberg, 05-16-2007 14:25:07  
Keith,

In 1951 for the Super-A, the long solid rod that connects the hydraulic unit rockshaft (left side) to the rear, fender-mounted rockshaft was called a 'lift link'. Both were 'special equipment', that is, they were bought separately for the tractor as needed for cultivators and other equipment.
The sliding collar pin has its own hole in the acute-angled 'L' bracket on the left side fender rockshaft and its hole is smaller (if I remember correctly) than the 2-equipment attachment holes on the other leg of the 'L'.
The opposite end of the lift link ends with an 'o' shaped hole to fit into the front hydraulic unit rockshaft attachment point and attaches with a hardened pin held in place with a spring-loaded cover.
I am not familiar with the differences between the 140 and the Super-A, but they are probably very similar.

Can't you straighten your lift link? They often get bent when the user doesn't give the sliding collar enough movement room for some rear mounted equipment, such as a 3-point brush cutter, to rise up as it follows ground contours (Don't ask how I know that). The front hydraulic unit rockshaft is rigid in the position it's set to and it won't back off under pressure, so if something has to give, it's usually the lift link.
You should have a locking collar on the lift link forward of the sliding collar, which you can loosen and move forward to allow a rear mounted implement to freely rise up if need be.
Hope you can find something useful in this description.

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SuperA-Tx

05-16-2007 19:15:24




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to Gene-AL, 05-16-2007 18:03:24  
Gene,

The lift link for the SA and 140 are quite differant. For example the front part of the link rod on the SA ends in a flattened part that just has a hole drilled in it. On the 140 it has a large "hook" where the front attaches to the hydraulic unit. The rear of the connecting rod is somewhat differant too, spring is huge on a 140 compared to a SA. Plus if I remember correct there is a square plate between the lift rod and the rockshaft arm. The arm on the 140 is lots thicker than on the SA. You (cant remember) can adjust the lift collar on the 140 but you cant on the SA, its welded in place.

The 140 also has the assist lift spring (differant thing altogether and not even on a SA).

So what someone has done on his is take the hook part and welded it on a pipe (I guess). I dont know what they did on the other end where the spring fits. There is two nuts that go on there to hold that spring.

PS. The bolt that holds the lift arm to the front rocker arm off the PTO is a half inch bolt. I checked on them at Case and they wanted $8 each. I made some myself out of a half inch hex head bolt, cut it and ground down the head. Head of the bolt is kind of rounded so it is pretty easy to do. get a long bolt where you can cut off all the threads.

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georgeky

05-16-2007 18:01:32




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to Keith Stromberg, 05-16-2007 14:25:07  
I misunderstood what you were looking for. I might have one,I have several different lift rods off various old Farmall junk. It will be tomorrow before I can look, but will post back my findings.



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georgeky

05-16-2007 17:26:49




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to Keith Stromberg, 05-16-2007 14:25:07  
Can't you just straighten it out? Lots of these are bent.



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SuperA-Tx

05-16-2007 17:38:54




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to georgeky, 05-16-2007 17:26:49  
georgeky

Read his post again. The bar he has is a replacement that someone welded the old ends on a pipe. Should be a solid rod and pretty good size, about 1"

Least thats they way I took it.



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georgeky

05-16-2007 17:57:47




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to SuperA-Tx, 05-16-2007 17:38:54  
I must have missed that part, I am good at that. I know I have straightened several of the originals.



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Keith Stromberg

05-17-2007 03:11:15




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 Re: Farmall 140 Need Hyd. Link Arm ????? in reply to SuperA-Tx, 05-16-2007 16:15:28  
Super A That would be great if you give me a picture of your set up and the measurments also. That way If I can not find one I guess I can strighten the one I have are make one as stated. Thanks,
Keith



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