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jonnny2006

06-11-2007 16:50:37

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i saw a m that was 4 wheel drive! i]the front wheels were powered by pulling the belt pully lever and then the front wheels would be online! he had alot of rare and neat tractors!!! all i.h.!!! porcline neon i.h. singns. blue ribbon signs! just all a i.h. collector would love to have he had it!!!!! he should make it into a muesuem as it is so nice!

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jonnny2006

06-12-2007 19:14:29

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Re: M 4 wheel drive!!! in reply to jonnny2006, 06-11-2007 16:50:37

it was defintly a wide front!

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Wardner

06-11-2007 17:27:11

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Re: M 4 wheel drive!!! in reply to jonnny2006, 06-11-2007 16:50:37

That is the Elwood gearbox that powers the front axle. It is NOT a belt pulley gearbox. If it were everybody could have FWA.

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Wardner

06-12-2007 13:41:58

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Re: M 4 wheel drive!!! in reply to Wardner, 06-11-2007 17:27:11

This is the only pic I have with the snowplow off.

No, I have never seen any pics with a narrow front powered axle although something similar is used on the Rokon motorcycle.

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Bob Kerr

06-12-2007 06:14:02

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Re: M 4 wheel drive!!! in reply to Wardner, 06-11-2007 17:27:11

Never heard of that before! I would love to see pics of the front end, I am assuming it must be a wide front? Or did they have a narrow front FWA?

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karl f

06-11-2007 18:08:48

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Re: M 4 wheel drive!!! in reply to Wardner, 06-11-2007 17:27:11

i've been curious how that works. i'm guessing same hole, different gear.
drooling, etc. thinkin about a 656 with fwa...
karl f

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Wardner

06-11-2007 18:24:40

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Re: M 4 wheel drive!!! in reply to karl f, 06-11-2007 18:08:48

I have no idea how the 656 FWA is configured.

I haven't taken the Elwood gearbox off my 660 so I can't tell you with any precision how it works. Just as there is a sliding gear in the belt pulley gearbox, the Elwood has the same. The main difference is that the BP driven gear mates with the BP driving gear on the input shaft of the transmission. The Elwood gear connection is thru the main shaft. It works in all gears including tractors equipped with a TA.

For those who are curious, the box pictured above will fit any M or W-6 thru 560/660.

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Harold H

06-12-2007 08:30:41

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Re: M 4 wheel drive!!! in reply to Wardner, 06-11-2007 18:24:40

Did Elwood ever make a gearbox to fit the H size chassis (H, SH, W4, SW4)?

Harold H

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Wardner

06-12-2007 13:24:31

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Re: M 4 wheel drive!!! in reply to Harold H, 06-12-2007 08:30:41

I don't believe they did. That opinion is also shared by others who know somwthing about Elwood.

Denny would know for sure.

I'm on shaky ground here. But isn't the linage of the 656 and later variants of that model traceable to 504, 606, 460, 350, 300, and ultimately the H and Super H? If that is the case, it may be possible to fit a front drive axle to an H. Now that could draw some attention. My knowledge of IH tractors ends with the 40-60 series although I do have a 504.

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