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Steven

06-21-2003 05:23:10




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I know some IH and Farmalls don't have sleeves. 474 and 574 are 2 that i know for sure. What about the 504 and 544? Are their others without sleeves??




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K.B.

06-21-2003 16:19:26




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 Re: IH ad Farmall tractors without sleeves in reply to Steven, 06-21-2003 05:23:10  
Four cylinder- 504 gas, 544 gas, 574 gas. Six-cylinder- 806 gas, 826 gas, 856 gas. These are the sleeveless engines that come to mind right away. Like what was said below, IH pretty much did away with sleeves in the four cylinder engines during the '60's, but the smaller 6-cylinder gas engines still were sleeved up until the end.



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Hugh MacKay

06-21-2003 17:09:33




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 Re: Re: IH ad Farmall tractors without sleeves in reply to K.B., 06-21-2003 16:19:26  
KB: Just checked the C-123 in the 140 was sleeved until the end. Also the C-135 but I doubt it was used after the 404.

So you are saying 460, 560, 606, 656, 706 and 756 gassers were sleeved engines. I didn't know that. Once they started using 6 cylinders there weren't many gassers came to Canada as at that time we were paying 40% more for fuel than you were. We cosied up to the diesels quite quickly. I personally have seen one 460 gas. I have never seen any gas versions of the others.

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K.B.

06-21-2003 21:58:11




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 Re: Re: Re: IH ad Farmall tractors without sleeves in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-21-2003 17:09:33  
I think you're right about the 404 being the last thing to have a C-135. Yep, all of the six-cylinder models you mentioned are dry-sleeved. I do find it interesting that there aren't any of the big gassers around in Canada. Here in Minnesota, 806 and 766 gas are as common as they come. I understand why you guys wouldn't want to own them, they're bad enough even though we were paying less for gasoline. I belive our 706 gas burns about 6 gallons per hour under full load, but it has been a long time since it has been anything but a loader tractor. They do make one heck of a sound, though.

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Jimmy King

06-21-2003 13:03:47




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 Re: IH ad Farmall tractors without sleeves in reply to Steven, 06-21-2003 05:23:10  
504 and 544 gas did not have sleeves 544 gas and 574 gas had the same engine.



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Hugh MacKay

06-21-2003 05:37:19




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 Re: IH ad Farmall tractors without sleeves in reply to Steven, 06-21-2003 05:23:10  
Steven: It seems as though the only IH gas tractors to have sleeves after 1964, was the 140. All the larger Farmall gassers were non sleeved engines. Some of them were actually dropped before that and in fact the later 140s may have been as I have never had anything to do with one later than 63. I do know the 504 gas was non sleeve as I bought one with a farm and the vendor advised me not to keep it too long. He had allready rebuilt it once. I kept it two weeks, and it got traded of on a new 1066 instead of my 300.

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Kelly C

06-21-2003 07:39:49




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 Re: Re: IH ad Farmall tractors without sleeves in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-21-2003 05:37:19  
Hey Hugh, I notice you have a hard time getting through a post with out mentioning your 300.
Hay baling = 300
mowing = 300
Loader work = 300
?? = 300
?? = 300
I get the felling you really like that 300?
:-)



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Hugh MacKay

06-21-2003 09:49:26




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 Re: Re: Re: IH ad Farmall tractors without sleeves in reply to Kelly C, 06-21-2003 07:39:49  
Kelly: actually I don't have the 300 anymore. After getting out of active farming, I chose to keep only the little off sets.

My dad bought the 300 new and it was a good reliable workhorse for 35 years. The tractor is still going, now on its sixth set of piston and sleeves. I talked with the new owner just last year. He had to put a new crank in it on the last rebuild. The first 15 years we had that tractor it was a new set of pistons and sleeves every 3-4 years. After the 300 I had a 504, 560D, 656D, 1066D and a 100hp Deere. But you know something the 300 will go down as holding record on my farm as the only tractor to have ever baled 9,000 bales of hay and put them all on wagon with thrower, in a 2 day period. The back up tractors raking hay and hauling wagons on those two days were only Farmall 130 and a Cockshutt 540. Not exactly a bundle of horsepower. The haying equipment was New Holland, 9' hatbine, rake and Super 69 hayliner with thrower.

Now in all fairness to the 1066 and Deere it was all round bales after their arival. The 504, 560 and 656 were however around for the square baler. We were just younger then and the flesh was a little more willing.

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TomH

06-21-2003 14:24:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: IH ad Farmall tractors without sle in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-21-2003 09:49:26  
9000 bales in two days? Wow. Must've had some pretty tired hands.



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Hugh MacKay

06-21-2003 16:51:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IH ad Farmall tractors without in reply to TomH, 06-21-2003 14:24:45  
Tom: actually the hands weren't too bad as there were enough of them that no one person probably handled more than 800 bales in the two days. The guy that put in the hardest two days was the guy pulling wagons with the Cockshutt from field to barn and back. The only chance he ever got off the tractor was hooking wagons to baler in field. My dad had to make a few trips pulling a wagon with pickup, to keep him caught up. We had 4 - 20' wagons so there was always one on baler, one at barn, one behind tractor in transit and the one in transit behind pickup. With the exception of my dad we were all just young guys in our late teens and early 20s and I will admit there was not a great amount of socializing those few nights. One of my brothers was on the baler and my dad spelled him off while he ate lunch. A second brother was raking hay with 130 and no one remembered to take him lunch and he spent the day in field with a jug of water and some peas and radish he picked when he was near the vegetable garden. I being the oldest of 5 brothers was the guy designated the milk the 40 holsteins morning and night. I did toss some bales in between but not as many as most.

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