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Evan Reif

07-06-2003 18:16:04

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I have a Farmall Super H that the previous owner let sit for a couple of years causing the engine to freeze up. I have the cylinders soaking in Kano penetrating oil. I rock the tires in first gear lightly. Will the wheels move when the engine frees up or how will I tell when it breaks free. I have heard of people using a breaker bar but do not know where to attach one and I am afraid of breaking a piston. Any help would be appreciated.

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Tim K.

07-08-2003 19:08:30

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Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to Evan Reif, 07-06-2003 18:16:04

Go ahead and take the head off, you will be happy you did. See ya, Tim K.

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ibpidlin

07-07-2003 08:16:59

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Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to Evan Reif, 07-06-2003 18:16:04

I take the rockers aloose ,then use the fitting for compression tester to hook-up to the air compresser.That way it pushes the oil through the rings quicker.

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Illinois

07-06-2003 19:23:33

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Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to Evan Reif, 07-06-2003 18:16:04

You will know when it breaks loose by watching the fan blades. That is assuming that you are the only person there and doing the rocking of the wheels by yourself. You can easily see the fan from where you will be standing while pushing on a rear tire. By the way, don`t have it in first gear, put it in fifth gear. You`ll have more leverage that way.

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Randy in NE

07-07-2003 04:51:24

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Re: Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to Illinois, 07-06-2003 19:23:33

If you leave it in 1st you can put more pressure on the motor than you can in 5th. Same reasoning why 1st gear pulls more than 5th. 5th gear would spin the motor at a faster rate but take a lot stronger back to make it happen.

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Dr.EVIL

07-07-2003 08:43:18

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Re: Re: Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to Randy in NE, 07-07-2003 04:51:24

Nope... ILLINOIS is correct. in 1st gear turning a rear tire one revolution spins the engine 200+ times.... in 5th gear spinning the tire once only spins the engine 40-50 times. Your correct about the reduction of the engine but Your forgetting which end is driving what. Same reasoning applys to pull starting trucks/tractors, and to heavy trucks decending steep hills.

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Eric

07-06-2003 18:27:27

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Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to Evan Reif, 07-06-2003 18:16:04

You can take the starter out and put pry bar into flywheel and try moving or just keep rocking the wheels and last attempt put chain on front of tractor and pop the clutch and see if tractor comes loose good luck

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Mike ISW

07-06-2003 18:42:59

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Re: Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to Eric, 07-06-2003 18:27:27

I don't suggest pulling her. Bent rods,cracked/broken block any number of things can happen depending on how stuck she is. PATIENCE is the key(unless the sun is out and the hay is on the ground.....lol). Remove spark plugs and soak each cylinder with whatever you like. Removal of the cylinder head is your next step but keep doing what your doing. Keep each cylinder soaking and rock her abit each night and morning. May take sometime. A week? 2 weeks? 2 days? Let us know how things turn(pun intended) out for you, Mike

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evan

07-06-2003 18:55:30

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Re: Re: Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to Mike ISW, 07-06-2003 18:42:59

how will i know when it breaks loose? thankyou for your help.

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Jim Broughton

07-06-2003 19:14:36

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to evan, 07-06-2003 18:55:30

Mike; Like the others said, patience is the key,
don't tow the tractor or you could do some pretty good damage. I soaked my tractor (Farmall) for about two months before I was able to free 'er up. I used a little bit of everything and the last week used Marvel Mystery Oil when she came loose! Don't know if it was because of or in spite of the mystery oil. Anyway, I used a heavy prybar on the flywheel, and presto she came loose all at once...just a little and as I worked it back and forth it became freer and eventually easy to turn. I was able to save the pistons..but did have to overhaul the engine, put new everything in except the pistons and she runs fine! LOL....Jim

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Evan Reif

07-06-2003 20:01:48

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to Jim Broughton, 07-06-2003 19:14:36

Thanks for your help but how do you tell when the engine breaks free?

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K.B.

07-06-2003 20:04:51

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to Evan Reif, 07-06-2003 20:01:48

The wheels will turn when the engine breaks free, if you have it in gear.

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Evan Reif

07-07-2003 08:52:21

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Frozen Super H Engine in reply to K.B., 07-06-2003 20:04:51

Thanks For your help. I will let you know how it turns out.

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