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Offset Farmalls Prone to Overturning ??

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New Super A Man

07-20-2003 22:53:57




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Just a question to some of you more experienced offset tractor guys. How prone are the offset Farmalls (A, SA, 140 etc.) to turning over due to the offset design. I've heard some people say they will get off balance very easy. I have a bit of slope on some of my land that I need to work with my newly aquired Super A. I was just wondering I need to take the usual precautions, or do something different, or maybe borrow another tractor on the hills. Thanks for advise!

Kevin

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cb ont

07-21-2003 19:28:35




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 Re: Offset Farmalls Prone to Overturning ?? in reply to New Super A Man, 07-20-2003 22:53:57  
Yes very easy flip one of these units. Around home everybody arond home one of these units "A , 100 or 140" to cultivate tamatoes and cucumbers for the small local caneries. I was a little guy back in the 1965/66 when one of my older brothers set the 100 over in the lane at home. Not much damage just banged up sheet metal and a headlite And my brother had jumped off and got away with only his nerves shaken up. A cousin did a similar thing turning on a headland to fast cultivating tomatoes.He jumped as well and only got his nerves rattled.

It seams to me they always kept a wheel weight and calsium on the right rear wheel to help counterweight the tractor. Were pretty flat here in Essex County Ontario but still they did manage to flip one of these units now any they. No fatalities that I recall but the one thing there was usualy speed and sharp turns that caused it.

Good luck and be safe.

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Hugh MacKay

07-22-2003 19:27:03




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 Re: Re: Offset Farmalls Prone to Overturning ?? in reply to cb ont, 07-21-2003 19:28:35  
Anyone who upsets any tractor in Essex County, Ontario, should be too ashamed to tell it. Your right it is so flat down there it would almost take a genius to upset a wheel barrow.



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Bus Driver

07-21-2003 17:21:25




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 Re: Offset Farmalls Prone to Overturning ?? in reply to New Super A Man, 07-20-2003 22:53:57  
Had a Super AV to slowly tip to the left side. The left rear wheel came to rest against a dirt bank before the tractor went completely on it's side. No damage to tractor or driver. Flipped a 1952 JD backward- it happens so quickly! Bruised my elbow- that sort of flip is about 85% fatal. Be careful on any tractor.



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Glenn-WV

07-21-2003 06:05:33




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 Re: Offset Farmalls Prone to Overturning ?? in reply to New Super A Man, 07-20-2003 22:53:57  
The best advice I can give is to go up and down the face of the hill, not across the front(and that goes for any tractor). Like the others said, the tractor was designed to accomodate the weight shifted to one side. The balance is good. My granddad had a Farmall offset(a 100). His farm was half flat land and half steep hillside. He never flipped the tractor, and he even baled hay with pull-type baler on that hillside. The operator just has to pay attention to what he is doing. :-)

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Haas

07-21-2003 05:29:36




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 Re: Offset Farmalls Prone to Overturning ?? in reply to New Super A Man, 07-20-2003 22:53:57  
Make sure the heavy cast wheel hub is on the right rear wheel. When you go accross a slope, keep the left side to the uphill side. Also good to set the wheels out some. Most of these tractors originally had the tread set narrow for cultivating. If the work you are doing will accomodate, set the wheels out. Some folks think tricycle tractors are bad for slopes, which may be true. However, I grew up with a Super A, a C and an MD. Of course the C and MD were tricycles. The only one of these that ever got turned over was the Super A, which my dad turned over twice that I know of. Fortunately, no serious injury. As the others said, any tractor can be turned over if the operator is not careful, so use caution when operating any tractor.

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Hugh MacKay

07-21-2003 02:26:33




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 Re: Offset Farmalls Prone to Overturning ?? in reply to New Super A Man, 07-20-2003 22:53:57  
New Super A Man: People must realize you have to be careful with all tractors on side hills. As far as suggesting the tractor is off balance by its offset design, that is just not so. The people who set the left wheel as wide as it will go and set the right wheel as narrow as it will go, truly have the tractor off balance. I have operated these little tractors most of my life and at 60 can say I have never even had a close call. I have also had them in some pretty mean spots. I have had my thrills, but you know they came on mid sized wide front tractors.

The Super A is set at 52, 56 or 60 inch wheel tread probably about as well balanced tractor as there is on market. If you load a flat bottom stone boat and hitch a Super A on front, it will pull 3 times it's own weight. Very few tractors ever built will do that. If you change those wheels as I indicated in first paragraph the super A will not pull 3 times its own weight.

If you happen to have one of those tractors that someone has removed the cast rear wheel from the right hand side. Either removed it completely or placed that wheel on the left yes tractor could be dangerous. The tractor was engineered to have that heavy cast wheel on the right.

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Jimmy king

07-21-2003 03:25:55




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 Re: Re: Offset Farmalls Prone to Overturning ?? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-21-2003 02:26:33  
With 1000's of hrs in the seat of an H and Super A I came closer to turning the H over when I was bush hoging ears pined back in 4th and ran over about a 12 ince stump. My Dad turned the Super A over onced the left when the left wheel fell into a hole and the right one went up on a hump, my Granddad had a bad habit of hiring a bulldozer and having mounds of dirt piled?? to get enough dirt in a pile to grow grass.

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