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C died and won't start

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Steve Mason

11-03-2003 14:39:48




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I knew the day would eventually come. My C (123ci engine) has started right up for me every single time since I got her almost 2 yrs ago. Yesterday I went to start her - started right up, ran about 3 or four minutes and died like somebody shut off the key.
I pulled the gas line off the card and fuel is coming through fine. I did notice some gas leaking around the choke lever on the side of the card but I figured maybe I had flooded it. I let it sit with the battery charger on it for a couple hours and tried to start it again. No luck.
I pulled the dist cap off and it looks like new. Not sure where to go from here - points look OK.
Is there something that typically causes a tractor to just die? I'm thinking electrical but what do I check?
I figured this would be the first place I'd ever come to if I had a problem...and it is

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jf

11-04-2003 02:45:31




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 Re: C died and won't start in reply to Steve Mason, 11-03-2003 14:39:48  
i placed a post on this forum about my C's electrical problem and a person answered in great detail that was extremely helpful. My advise go back and search this site or the tractor site. If you need more info contact me again. I need to go vote



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Randy Reed

11-03-2003 20:14:06




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 Re: C died and won't start in reply to Steve Mason, 11-03-2003 14:39:48  
Steve, If you don't have fire from the coil, take a VOM (voltage ohm meter) and see if you have voltage to the coil. If not, you need to suspect either an open off-on switch or an open ammeter. Either will stop the voltage from getting to the coil. I've had three open ammeters since I've been fooling with these Farmalls. Two were caused by grounded wires, so check for this if the ammeter is open. Good luck.

Randy Reed

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Hugh MacKay

11-03-2003 18:09:56




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 Re: C died and won't start in reply to Steve Mason, 11-03-2003 14:39:48  
Steve: How is Iowa fall weather treating you? How did the crops turn off in the end? Last I heard from you it was very dry.

On the C if it sounds like someone turned the switch off, maybe that is just what you should check first. Check for power coming from switch to coil with switch on. There was a guy on here couple days back and that wire from switch to coil had broken. I doubt if the coil is problem as they tend act up when tractor is at operating temp and then will work again when cool. Could be in points or condencer. A couple of other problems I've had over the years is a loose distributor shaft. Tractor would stop if it hit a bump or other jolt. With that it would always restart right away. The other is striped gears on distributor drive. I have seen them strip completely, thus if points are open you have no fire. I have also seen them slip a few teeth on drive thus throwing timing off.

My first two thoughts would be power to coil and points and or condencer. May as well change both as just one. I will also tell you this, I have much better luck with ignition parts from CaseIH than other sources. I have seen ign parts from other sources that didn't fit right, didn't work well and didn't last long either.

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Steve Mason

11-04-2003 05:16:24




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 Re: Re: C died and won't start in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-03-2003 18:09:56  
thaks for the tips guys!

Hugh, it was soooo dry here throughout August and September that most everyone expected a lower than average corn yield. However a lot of guys were really surprised at how well the crop stood the dry weather. Not too many farmers complaining at all. And that's rare! *grin*
Hope all is well at the MacKay home!



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Farmer Bob

11-03-2003 16:58:26




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 Re: C died and won't start in reply to Steve Mason, 11-03-2003 14:39:48  
Good post below, I'd be suspect of the coil or condensor whether mag or dist. Condensors tend to either work they don't work. Coils can get weak with use and age or even give out between the primary and secondary circuits in them. It could also picked up a piece of debris which plugged a spot in the carb. Do the easy tests first then the more difficult and costly tasks.



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old

11-03-2003 14:51:16




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 Re: C died and won't start in reply to Steve Mason, 11-03-2003 14:39:48  
I'd first pull the coil wire off the cap and check if you have spark. Hold the wire close to some metal and turn the engine over you should get spark. If not you have wireing problems, ie bad coil bad points etc. If you have spark go to the carb, pull the drain plug off the bottom if you have gas there good. From there I'd remove the air intake tube from the carb and see if you have a lot of gas in the carb. If not hold your hand over the end of the carb for a moment and turn the engine over at the same time, if it trys to fire you need to clean the carb. Hope this helps you some

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