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when is it time to change the front spindels?.

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Jonathan

11-12-2003 14:17:58




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Hi, I have an International 484 with a loader on it, and was wondering how to check the front spindels?, because I have heard of them wearing out and breaking if you don't change them every so often, and I really don't think thats something I want to experience while driving it down the road in road gear.
thanks in advance!,
Jonathan




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Hugh MacKay

11-13-2003 05:25:48




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 Re: when is it time to change the front spindels?. in reply to Jonathan, 11-12-2003 14:17:58  
Jonathan: I have seen spindles break on tractors less than 1 year old. I have also seen tractors 50 years old that heve never broken a spindle. I've seen 40 year old tractors that always had a loader and never broke a spindle. I personally only ever broke one of them, and that tractor never had a loader on it. My 1066 broke a spindle at about two years of age. Tractors the 100 plus hp range, with duals on, and doing heavy tillage work, will put a lot of stress on front axle.

Having said all of this, the single biggest cause of front end breakage on tractors is the nut behind the wheel. That was the case with my 1066, and the nut was so advised.

I personally would never put a loader on a farm tractor, they weren't designed for it. Fine if you just want to do a bit of yard work, move bit of earth, etc. If however you are into high production farming with loader going full out most of day. Go and buy a real loader, it will be a lot more economical in the long run.

In the 1970s I needed loaders at to separate farms. I already owned a Farmall 560D with 2000 loader. I went out and purchased a 45 hp skid steer loader. That machine would load circles around the 560. Two years later I bought a second skid steer loader. Within 2 months my 2000 loader was taken off the 560, packed away in the drive shed until 10 years later a guy came along and bought it. In 1972 those skid steers could be bought for 30% of the cost of a new 65 hp tractor and loader. I imagion the same is still true. Yes I did handle 1200 lb. round bales. Every loader job on my farm, one of those 45 hp skid steers could out perform 560 and 2000 loader hands dowm.

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Jonathan

11-13-2003 08:57:26




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 Re: Re: when is it time to change the front spinde in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-13-2003 05:25:48  
I have just alittle hobby farm, and for the most part, the heavyist thing I move with the loader is heavy wet snow in the winter.
Thank you,
Jonathan



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Hugh MacKay

11-13-2003 12:11:45




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 Re: Re: Re: when is it time to change the front sp in reply to Jonathan, 11-13-2003 08:57:26  
Jonathan: With that type of loader work you really should never have to worry too much. 484 is a tough little tractor. When something such as a spindle break occurs, the operator can usually trace it back to a heavy jolt or shock load. Most of this happenes with heavy loads in loader and too much speed.

One of the biggest killer on spindles is feeding livestock, moving big round bales, etc. In soft weather they rut the ground up, then drive over the frozen ruts with a 1500 lb bale of hay or manure. Those are the guys that would actually save money with and industrial type loader. In short they are just trying to do the work of a payloader with a tractor.

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hal

11-13-2003 03:13:08




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 Re: when is it time to change the front spindels?. in reply to Jonathan, 11-12-2003 14:17:58  
We had a 584 with a loader on it. I had broke 3 front spindels on it. The only thing that I can tell you that when they break with a load on it, the S O B will throw you off the tractor. Luckly they all broke while standing still or moving at a slow speed.



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gene b

11-13-2003 02:03:46




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 Re: when is it time to change the front spindels?. in reply to Jonathan, 11-12-2003 14:17:58  
That has to be close to the top of the list on OLD WIVES TALES. Must have been srarted by someone who sells parts and works on commision.



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Nebraska Cowman

11-12-2003 18:00:35




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 Re: when is it time to change the front spindels?. in reply to Jonathan, 11-12-2003 14:17:58  
They will probibly break when you are loading dirt or manure. You can buy new ones then. My advice is don't make tomorrows troubles today's.



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