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Bill B

12-04-2003 13:27:35




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I got my 300 utility home today. The seller put the loader on, but he did not know how to put the quick connect hoses on, so the loader moves, but not right. On the left side of the tractor there is one quick connect, so that is no problem. On the right side, there is a block with 3 quick connect outlets. One is for the right cylinder, the other 2 are for the bucket cylinder. Does anyone know which outlets are for what? The 3 outlets are at the top left of the block, the center, and the bottom right, when looking straight at the block.
Anybody guess what this thing weighs with the IH loader and a scraper blade? The truck worked much harder than when I moved an H last month. On one hill, I was down to second gear. Sure glad I got new 8 ply tires this summer.

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dick

12-04-2003 19:52:01




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 Re: 300 utility questions. in reply to Bill B, 12-04-2003 13:27:35  
Your hydraulic connections are likely to be unique to your tractor, and Hugh's advice is the best you're likely to get - you'll just have to trace things out and figure out how they work.

A couple of things to look for in the process: are the cylinders single-acting (one hose connection/cylinder, probably for movement in the up direction only (one hose per cylindeer unless something really strange is going on) .. or are they double-acting, hydraulic pressure applied in both directions (two hoses/cylinder). The standard 300U control valves have a switch to change from being set up for double-acting versus single-acting - look at the front of the valve and you should see an upside-down "S" and "D" and a toothpick-sized pointer indicating which one is selected for that particular valve. You're probably just going to have to experiment and use some common sense to get it to work correctly.

The bare weight of the 300U is about 4150#, to which you add gas, the various oils, and coolant (maybe 250#?). If the tires are filled with CaCl2, add about another 930# for 13.6-28 tires. Add 145#/side for any sets of rear wheel weights. Your guess is as good as mine for the loader and blade, but you're probably talking about at least 200# or so for the blade, and perhaps 1000# or more for the loader, depending on which ones you have. Add it all up and it gets pretty heavy.

Probably the best advice at this point is to get yourself a set of manuals from Binder Books - in particular the Operators Manual. Good luck with your "new" tractor.

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Bill B

12-05-2003 03:51:30




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 Re: Re: 300 utility questions. in reply to dick, 12-04-2003 19:52:01  
Thanks for the info. I will look for the pointer. The lift cylinders are single acting, with only one hose per cylinder. The bucket cylinder is double acting and has 2 hoses. I also noticed that the levers seem to operate opposite they way it would be logical, including the fast hitch. It is really awkward to push the lever down to raise the fast hitch. Guess I will look closer at the lines today.

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Hugh MacKay

12-04-2003 13:55:01




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 Re: 300 utility questions. in reply to Bill B, 12-04-2003 13:27:35  
Bill: I am not very familiar with the Utility, it is quite easy to follow plumbing on the Farmall. I suspect not impossible on the Utility. Trial and error will work if you keep tractor at low idle and feather hydraulic lever lightly. Another problem I have seen is variations in plumbing even within models.

On weight it will be a bit heavier than H, but loader and rear blade are big difference. I had hauled numerous 275, 444, etc on my 3/4 ton Chevy and 16' car hauler. One day I passed a friend on road with his 444 loader, two buckets and a 3point logging winch. I knew he was heading 15 miles to his wood lot, and it was about -10F. I stopped and told him anyone close to our age (60) should have enough money, he shouldn't need to drive tractor in that cold air. I suggested he load it on, he did, and man was I ever glad when that was over. I got home and discovered I had some cracks in trailer frame.

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Bill B

12-04-2003 19:19:17




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 Re: Re: 300 utility questions. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-04-2003 13:55:01  
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My trailer is fairly new, and I just put really good tires on it, so I was not too worried about the trailer. I was worried about stopping. My truck is a 1971 F350, and with dual rear wheels, it has plenty of stability, but not much on stopping. I am gathering the stuff to convert the front to disk brakes.

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