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sdterry

01-08-2004 16:27:28




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A friend of mine bought a growler at an auction, but he doesn't know how to use it. Does he need a manual or is it easy to explain?

I remember seeing them used but never knew how they worked. I just know that the armature layed in the cradle, and it growled! Is the growling sound good or bad? What determines if the armature is good or bad?

Thanks for your help.




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gauger

01-09-2004 05:40:07




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 Re: growler/ armature check in reply to sdterry, 01-08-2004 16:27:28  
There is a good book out there (Barnes & Noble has it) called "How to Restore Tractor Magnetos" by I believe, the author is Neil Yerrigan?? (spelling)It covers starters and generators too and talks about using the growler



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Bob

01-08-2004 22:33:53




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 Re: growler/ armature check in reply to sdterry, 01-08-2004 16:27:28  
If you have a typical older growler with the continuity light built in, be carefull with the test probes for the continuity function. Some of the old units used full 120 Volt AC on these, and plugged into the wall socket one way, one of the test leads was connected to the AC neutral, and the other through the indicator lamp filament to 120 volts. If you reversed the plug, the one test lead would be directly connected to 120 volts, and the other to neutral, through the bulb filament. Not too safe by today's standards, and could give a nasty shock when touched (or worse).

Not all the old units were that way, but some were, and, yes, I've had a nasty shock or two from the 2 old units I have. It's not just a matter of touching the tip of the probe. When you use it for one of it's intended purposes, to check for shorts from the windings to the armature (or frame), the whole unit becomes electrified, and easy to accidently touch. (OUCH!)

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Allan

01-08-2004 17:35:41




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 Re: growler/ armature check in reply to sdterry, 01-08-2004 16:27:28  
Terry,

Hope my memory serves me on this one, as I haven't used one since the 60's.

Lay the armature in the growlier and rotate it periodically while the growlier is running. At the same time, take a used hacksaw blade and run it lengthwise across the top of the armature.

If the sawblade "sticks" (magnetically) to the armature, the armature is shorted.

That's how I recall the procedure, anyway; if I’m wrong, hope someone corrects me.

Allan

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rebuilder

01-08-2004 18:35:51




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 Re: Re: growler/ armature check in reply to Allan, 01-08-2004 17:35:41  
Allan;

No, you are correct. I use a large diameter light washer to feel for shorts. Most are pretty obvious, but I have had some armatures come back after rebuild where a short showed up.I wonder whether a slight short goes undetected? Also on my tester there are continuity leads to check for shorts between the commutator(copper) and the steel. You memory serves you well. I had to teach myself how to use this when I first started rebuilding a few years ago.

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Bigdog

01-08-2004 17:12:42




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 Re: growler/ armature check in reply to sdterry, 01-08-2004 16:27:28  
Check the link.



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