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Mike ISW

01-25-2004 05:31:46




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My garage was burglerized Friday morning. This is where I keep my '48 H and alot of tools. The service door was kicked in. My wife's car and my truck were gone thru. Damage to the door and a locked locker pryed open. To make a long story short.....nothing vandilized and minor stuff stolen. When the cops arrived they already had 1 guy and got the other later that day. I read in the paper the guy they caught first had broken into and vandilized a area church 10 months earlier. What's he doing on the street? Also now's the time to re-think how secure your things are! What are you using? Deadbolts,lights,alarms?

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Irv

01-25-2004 16:42:11




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
We have had very little trouble here. The only things stolen over the years have been a "cat Crossing" sign at the end of the driveway and some wood and straw bales stolen by hunters. I went walking on my property a few years back, and found a blind on my property. This really torqued me off. Especially after I noticed that the blind was made out of wood that had been stored in my barn. And the straw bales used as seats were from my barn. I burned the blind. I have had dogs ever since, and while the dog barks occasionally, I have never had anything stolen since. I would get a friendly dog - females seem to be better watchdogs - I have one now that can hear my wife's truck coming a half a mile away! My 2c Irv

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Hugh MacKay

01-26-2004 03:49:59




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 Re: Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Irv, 01-25-2004 16:42:11  
Irv: If you watch that dog closely, I'll bet he hears her long before that. My wife went to town (30 miles) with 6.2 diesel. Dog and I were at the house, he wanted out, and sat on step looking down road. 35 minutes she landed home, I said," you probably have what I phoned the Co-op to send with if you came in." She replied," yes but how did you know." I said," Willie told me, he has been watching for you for 35 minutes, so I'm think he heard you drive into Co-op." She was a bit skeptical.

A few days later I was away with truck, this time a Cat engine. Willie wanted out, same thing sat on step watching for half hour. The difference I was on a 15 mph gravel road and from the timing we decided 5 miles was about his range. You have your wife call you sometime let you know her progress on way home, I bet you will be surprised. This is precisely why they are so much better than alarms and lights.

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Bill Smith

01-25-2004 15:11:27




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
I agree with the post that suggests leaving items out of plain veiw. I think often times, things are stolen that have been previously seen by the theif. Often times the theif is someone you know, even if a 1 time aquantance. I also agree that locks, extra lighting and so forth is only going to stop honest people, which you shouldn't have to worry about them anyways. I live in a relatively low rate of robbery area, but non the less I have had stuff stolen. Some things that I do is only have people that I know well and trust at my place of residence. About all of my equipment will not start by turn of the key (secret to start everything). Keep close eye on neighbors that you know are a little shady. If it all possible, keep things likely to be stolen out of site. If you are a victim of robbery, plan on doing some investigating yourself (some cops are real lazzy and may only right up a report).

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Nebraska Cowman

01-25-2004 13:46:37




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
I keep a gun hanging in plain sight.



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KURT (mi)

01-25-2004 11:20:08




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
Get a dog or Buy a 12 gauge shotgun...just remember to make it so that the guy is in the house and not out of it when you shoot, and make sure that he cant tell his side of the story. Also be sure to get a knife and put it in his hand and say that he was going to kill you, if he doesnt have a weapon. Well our liberal BS society will say that he was a victim, and his mommy never snuggled with him when he was a baby and that he was hungry. If he robbed a church he should be shot. What a dirtbag.

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James Williams

01-25-2004 09:07:03




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
Mike,I worked for a company and supplied tools for about 30 men the factory was broken into and my tools were stollen.the company replaced part of them cost was 3500.00. the two burglars were found along with the tools.they were alowed to keep the tools and fined 500.00 and given 1 year to pay.What a payment plan.



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rick

01-25-2004 08:10:43




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
I have a farmall tractor but now sure what it is I was thinking it was Super A how can I tell the tage under the sit you cant read it have number 313317 and 1540



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Paul in Mich

01-25-2004 08:38:11




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 Re: Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to rick, 01-25-2004 08:10:43  
Rick, From the numbers you posted it appears to be a 1951 super A. The 1540 is the Max idle speed figure.



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Hermit

01-25-2004 07:50:51




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
I truely dislike people who ignore personal property rights. Although tempted, I perfer to use non-lethal means concerning these criminals when human life is not threatened. A motion detector with a 120 decibel siren and strobe light can be bought or built. It can be designed and set to respond to just people and not little critters roaming around the shop. It's a slight hassle to turn it on and off when you enter and leave the building but that's the unfortunate cost of living in our current world. Your neighbors might welcome such a system since it will let them know a criminal is in the area. The only other option is to not own anything. And what fun would life be without an old tractor.

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Hugh MacKay

01-25-2004 07:08:11




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
Mike: Back 10 years ago I lived in a neighbor hood where it seemed like once a month someone was having their house, shop, etc. broken into. Everyone except two of us, what did we have in common, "dogs". Not vicious watch dogs, just dogs that made some noise if you were home and a lot of noise if you weren't. They were basically house dogs with very sharp ears. Far better to have a house dog, and good yard lights. Far better to have your cannon pointed out a dark window than his cannon pointed at you or your dog.

On more than one ocasion I have been roused from whatever I am doing by my dog. Yes I have watched would be intruders fleeing on foot at the sound of the dog barking. Same when your not home, intruders are never absolutely sure the dog is alone. It is far better if he can't come in contact with them. My dog was loud enough when I was not home to rouse the neighbors.

Dog also seems to sence whether there is danger as well. If I felt there wasn't danger I used to let him out. Now there is a down side to this, called skunks, porqupines, etc. Luckily my dog never made those mistakes twice.

Theives definately don't like dealing with a dog they can't see.

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GG

01-25-2004 06:59:39




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
If they don't see it they are not interested. If at all possible, don't leave ANYTHING in plain view. I never leave my buildings open and never let a strainger in my shop. If I have something for sale, I put it out for them to see before they arrive. These things are inconviences that I tolerate, but believe it is worth the effort.



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Hugh MacKay

01-25-2004 07:38:58




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 Re: Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to ED, 01-25-2004 06:50:22  
Ed: A friend of mine with a commercial shop, used dogs quite sucessfully. He had an intercom so either he or inlaws could hear dogs very early during an invasion.

Once he was reporting to police an attempt on his shop as he had seen the person and knew the identity. Police advice was to position himself where he could make a baseball swing with a 6' steel bar, catch the invader below the knees with the swing, and don't let him see you. And most of all never tell anyone. The officer as well knew the invader, and also knew the legal system never cured him.

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Dave BN

01-25-2004 06:38:41




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
I live in an area where I can still leave my barn unlocked most of the time. Having said that I'll probibly get robed now. The more you lock the more damage they'll have to do to break in. I don't have any windows in my barn though. I built it that way so no one can just look in to see what I have. I did have my hand crank stolen at our local antique power show last summer. That really made me mad. Dave.

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Paul in Mich

01-25-2004 06:31:39




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
Mike, Whereas it may be too cold for most of us, it seems like its never too cold for the thieves. I'm sure that with a little effort that they could find a warmer occupation. Mc D's is hiring. I dont know what else you could install to deter them except that maybe a bad a$$ed dog, but then the thieves would own what they tried to steal anyways by suing you if Rover caused them even mental stress, let alone ripping a chunk out of their stolen "Redskins" jacket.

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tractorhead

01-25-2004 05:57:20




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
as a backup to my locks I really like my motion lights,they never lie, If I see a light on; something is there; could be a dog, deer, or maybe a crook.



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49 Cubber!

01-25-2004 05:52:42




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 Re: Cold Sunday Discussion in reply to Mike ISW, 01-25-2004 05:31:46  
Where I store my tractors its pretty much out of sight from where anyone can see them unless they trurn their head the right way when they drive by the house.It looks like its just another pole building from the road.BUT,having had one stolen from me years ago,I have uped my precautions somewhat.I take out all of my batteries,with exception to my working M,and leave as little gas in them as possible until I need them or take them to the show.Thisdoes two things,I can keep fresher fuel in them and when I am ready to gog to the show or just piddle around on them, Ican charge the battery the night before,and deters anyone from trying t osteal them as well.I also have my shop near my barn which has been broken into before.I have installed an alarm system on it in conjuction woith my house so tha tif anyone breaks into it,the alarm at the house goes off and the police get notified.I have a system through my local electric company and pay the little monitoring charge when I pay my bill.I also have yard light placed in the back yard and at the barn as well.

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